Critically thinking about the corona virus

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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 21 Apr 2021, 17:18

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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 21 Apr 2021, 17:23

Hundreds of NHS staff form anti-vax group and label new Covid jabs 'poison'
NHS Workers for Choice, No Restrictions for Declining a Vaccine insist they are not an anti-vaccine group but fear a coronavirus vaccine is a new 'frozen virus'
https://archive.ph/NOffb#selection-941.0-945.160

Coronavirus: NHS staff join anti‑vax group
https://archive.ph/KcHlK#selection-695.11-699.42
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby toomanyhatz » 21 Apr 2021, 18:36

A useful site all around for anyone who actually wants to 'think critically', but this article in particular gets right to the point - less than a hundred deaths out of millions = Halt these Dangerous Vaccines! / Half a million deaths = huge survival rate.

It's pretty easy to predict the 'talking points' when they haven't really changed in over a year.

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/04 ... ood-clots/
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby toomanyhatz » 21 Apr 2021, 18:45

This, in particular, is rather golden:

I must admit that I had a negative reaction when I saw the news stories in the morning and kept seeing the phrase “abundance of caution.” Does anyone remember that phrase? Those who’ve followed the antivaccine movement for a while might remember that phrase being used when the CDC and American Academy of Pediatrics recommended removing mercury from vaccines two decades ago out of an “abundance of caution” and to make “safe vaccines even safer.” At the time some childhood vaccines contained the antimicrobial preservative thimerosal (which contained mercury), and antivaxxers were claiming that thimerosal caused autism. (Indeed, RFK Jr.’s whole early shtick was conspiracy mongering about how the CDC had “covered up” the alleged link between thimerosal in vaccines and autism.) Unsurprisingly, the removal of mercury from all childhood vaccines had exactly the opposite effect, sending the unintentional message to antivaxxers that they had been right all along about mercury and leading parents to wonder, not at all unreasonably, why the CDC had removed thimerosal if, as it claimed, thimerosal was safe, it had removed it from childhood vaccines. It was the precautionary principle run amok, given that there was not then and is not now any good evidence linking thimerosal-containing vaccines to autism and plenty of evidence showing no association, the best of which is the observation that, even after the removal of thimerosal from childhood vaccines, autism prevalence kept increasing for 20 years, leading some wags to suggest sarcastically that maybe thimerosal prevents autism. In any event, in a pandemic, one has to weigh the question of how many more might die unnecessarily of COVID-19 due to not being able to access the J&J COVID-19 vaccine versus, even if the association ends up being found to be causative, the less than one-in-a-million risk of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST).
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 22 Apr 2021, 01:20

From Hatz's article:
Even if CVST were linked to the AstraZeneca (or J&J) vaccine, in the middle of a pandemic the risk of these very rare events needs to be weighed against the risk of serious illness and death from COVID-19. However, the human brain is not good at thinking this way, weighing very small risks against much larger risks, particularly when those very small risks come from an intervention used in people with no disease designed to prevent something that hasn’t happened yet. Contrast this to cancer chemotherapy, for instance. People can accept the serious adverse events and even the risk of death from chemotherapy when it is weighed against the risk of certain death from cancer. They have a much harder problem accepting even a one-in-a-million chance of a serious adverse event from a preventative treatment like a vaccine.


No. We all take risks everyday like driving in a car or walking down the street. We all absolutely must get to where we are going and so take the chance the car won't crash or a bus won't hit us. But to inject a deadly at worst or imperfect at best concoction to lower the risk of death from an illness with a 99% chance of survival is ridiculous. Maybe we should all wear helmets everywhere - - just in case. Roofs do collapse and who doesn't slip and fall from time to time? A good helmet would stop a few of us from bumping our heads - or possibly even dying. C'mon America, put on a helmet!

And I get shit for comparing Covid-19 to the flu, Hatz's guy is comparing it to cancer. Mimicking Hatz, "Covid is not cancer."
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 22 Apr 2021, 02:56

Come on. What the hell are we doing to ourselves?

Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.

1. Studies on the effectiveness of face masks

So far, most studies found little to no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth face masks in the general population, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control.

A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. (Source)
A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” (Source)
A February 2021 review by the European CDC found no significant evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 masks by the general public. (Source)
A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth masks against virus infection or transmission. (Source)
A November 2020 Cochrane review found that face masks did not reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. (Source)
An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). (Source)
An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that cloth face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. (Source)
A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use. (Source)
An August 2020 review by a German professor in virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth face masks and that the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to an increase in infections. (Source)
https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 22 Apr 2021, 03:07

Covid’s IFR just keeps DROPPING

With every new study, with every new paper, the “deadly” pandemic gets less and less, well, deadly. The most recent data review, published in late March, puts the infection fatality ratio (IFR) at 0.15%.

That is, once again, pretty much the same as a normal flu season....
https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/21/cov ... -dropping/
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 22 Apr 2021, 03:43

Some good readin' here.

The Covidian Cult (Part II)

“instead of the cult existing as an island within the dominant culture, the cult has become the dominant culture, and those of us who have not joined the cult have become the isolated islands within it?”

Basically, society has been transformed into something resembling an infectious disease ward, or an enormous hospital from which there is no escape.

Despite the fact that they tell themselves that they’re trying to help you “come to your senses” or “see the truth,” or “trust the Science,” they are not. They are cultists, desperately trying to get you to conform to their paranoid beliefs, pressuring you, manipulating you, bullying you, threatening you.
https://consentfactory.org/2021/04/21/t ... t-part-ii/
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 22 Apr 2021, 11:02

Herpes! Wow!

Herpes infections may be a side effect of a COVID-19 vaccine, experts have revealed.

Scientists in Israel identified six cases in a new study of patients developing a skin rash known as herpes zoster — or shingles — after receiving the Pfizer vaccine, according to a study in the Rheumatology journal.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/20/herpes-in ... 9-vaccine/
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 22 Apr 2021, 15:30

Russiagate followers, here's something to consider.

Are Vaccines The Real Driving Force Behind The Latest Donbass Destabilization?
6 April 2021

Observers are in a passionate debate over what's really driving the latest Donbass destabilization, with the most prominent hypotheses being either domestic Ukrainian politics or the US' regional geostrategic ambitions, but the argument can also compellingly be made that the concept of so-called “vaccine nationalism” is playing a largely under-discussed role in events. ...
http://oneworld.press/?module=articles& ... ew&id=1987

I am disappointed that Russia, whose side I generally take in the new cold war, is playing along, albeit as a rival, in the covid ruse.
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 23 Apr 2021, 04:42

Yale public health professor suggests 60% of new COVID-19 patients have received vaccine
'Clinicians have been telling me that more than half of the new COVID cases that they’re treating are people who have been vaccinated,' said Dr. Harvey Risch.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/yale- ... ed-vaccine

Cheer up! The good news is that 40% of the vaccinated don't have the illness.
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby jimboo » 23 Apr 2021, 11:01

Make sure you don't spend too much time sitting Jimmy you could get piles. They are a real thing. At least I think they are. Maybe you could research it. Imagine the irony of getting piles while researching if they exist.
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 23 Apr 2021, 14:53

... despite the absence of any actual scientific evidence of an apocalyptic plague (and the abundance of evidence to the contrary), millions of people continue to behave like members of an enormous death cult, walking around in public with medical-looking masks, robotically repeating vacuous platitudes, torturing children, the elderly, the disabled, demanding that everyone submit to being injected with dangerous experimental “vaccines,” and just generally acting delusional and psychotic.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/22/the ... t-part-ii/

Anyone else agree with the sentiment C.J.'s layiing down here?
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 24 Apr 2021, 02:35

Mother's legs erupt in agonising blood-filled blisters 'after getting AstraZeneca's Covid vaccine' - as 34-year-old reveals rare reaction left her wheelchair-bound and fearing she'd need her limbs amputated
https://archive.is/yHGVz#selection-933.0-933.206

Coronavirus latest news: AstraZeneca blood clot risk doubles, data show, but benefits 'still outweigh risks'
https://archive.is/RC35B#selection-1581.1-1581.110

What risk? That there is a 99.00something% chance you might die from the illness - - if you catch it. And catching it ain't that easy either. I heard that there is a bigger risk of dying or having some serious side-effect from the experimental vaccine than from the covid itself.

So much horseshit ...

Fucking really?

Owners warned against cuddling their cats after kitten dies from Covid
In the first case of its kind in the UK, the four-month-old Ragdoll had to be put down after SARS-CoV-2 was found in its lungs
https://archive.is/XGJlJ#selection-1109.1-1113.128
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 24 Apr 2021, 03:04

All those "case" and "infection" numbers - - - horseshit.

The WHO Confirms that the Covid-19 PCR Test is Flawed: Estimates of “Positive Cases” are Meaningless. The Lockdown Has No Scientific Basis

... They don’t say “We Made a Mistake”. The retraction is carefully formulated.

WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology. (emphasis added)

WHO reminds IVD users that disease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases (2). This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/nucleic-a ... -2/5739959
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 24 Apr 2021, 06:25

Writing in The Telegraph today, journalist Judith Woods claimed that she’d be prepared to take a microchip, if it meant she could get away this Summer. ... How dare she call herself a journalist.
https://richieallen.co.uk/telegraph-jou ... n-holiday/

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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 24 Apr 2021, 08:17

More lunacy from the federal government threatens doctors with $10,000 fines if they tell you the science about how vitamins and minerals can help with COVID.

The law “prohibits deceptive acts or practices associated with the treatment, cure, prevention, mitigation or diagnosis of COVID-19,” violation of which can result in civil penalties. Statute allows the FTC to assess $10,000 for each violation; multiple fines can be doled out based on a single claim. State consumer protection laws could also come into effect, allowing potential class actions.

This is a clear warning to those in the natural health profession: either push vaccines and drugs for COVID-19, or keep your mouth shut.
https://anh-usa.org/feds-on-vitamins-an ... or-pay-up/

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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 24 Apr 2021, 09:40

Rips the mask right off. A really good read.

Gain of Function/Loss of Sanity: Pandemics and the Rise of Medical Madness

... A media controlled by multi-national mega corporations and
their banking interests, coupled with very suspicious academic
errors, ramped up public hysteria like the world has never seen
despite data pouring in that the lockdowns were doing less than
nothing. Early on I was interviewed by Bloomberg News and spent
2 hours explaining how we had to protect the vulnerable and pro-
mote the intelligent use of available treatments including Vita-
min D, Hydroxychloroquine, (HCQ), zinc and other antiviral drugs
known to have activity against corona viruses. I told the reporter I
had had SARS-1 17 years earlier and recovered using methods to
enhance my own immunity, such as the drug Isoprinosine that im-
proves Natural Killer cell activity, garlic, oregano and vitamin D. But
alas, it was a disdainful article used to ridicule those who thought
anything other than a vaccine would get us out of this crisis. The
reporter did quote me correctly, “Don’t fear the virus,” I said, “fear
the CDC as they have become compromised”.

The shameful war against HCQ is a perfect example of how the
corporate controlled media revealed just how controlled they are.
First and foremost, HCQ acts as a zinc ionophore helping the zinc
get into cells... it was always about the zinc and not about HCQ as
there are other zinc ionophores out there, such as quercetin, but
this was about shutting down any potential treatment because a
vaccine and only a vaccine would solve this pandemic and finan
-cially enrich those manipulating events.

... Meanwhile, the gullible public was being fed fear-porn hand-
over-fist until they believed getting the virus was a guaranteed
death sentence. Why, because those running our public health bu
-reaucracies were getting powers they had never had before whilst
their well-financed puppet masters were making a financial killing
on the corpses of others.
https://archives.simplelists.com/nfu/ca ... 8229/2.pdf
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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 24 Apr 2021, 10:03

I know you may call me an anti-vaxxer, but the only vaccines I don’t want are the experimental ones so “anti-being test object” would be better. Vaccine research takes years. COVID-19 vaccines were promoted as safe and efficient after months. More and more data shows that these vaccines are neither. Mass used or not COVID-19 vaccines are still in a clinical trial stage and some people receive placebo. I previously suggested it here, but now there are reports that indeed some people receive placebo (saline solution).
https://genuineprospect.com/2021/04/21/ ... lette/amp/

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Re: Critically thinking about the corona virus

Postby Jimbo » 24 Apr 2021, 14:29

Lisa Brackenridge, former nurse, discusses life in the NHS under the Covid policy agenda.
A frank discussion of Covid policy, staff reaction, patient treatment and management insanity during the 2020 "Covid Crisis" within the National Health Service.

Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth. - Mahatma Gandhi