PC21 Last Round Match 5 *LMG 8- neige 8*

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PC21 Last Round Match 5 *LMG 8- neige 8*

Postby never/ever » 25 Apr 2021, 11:15

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Peter Hammill – Not For Keith





B

Automatic Fine Tuning – Gladioli

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby Neil Jung » 25 Apr 2021, 22:44

A Good old Peter. I’m not familiar with this song. Not bad.
B I remember this coming out. I thought it might be for me as a twin lead guitar aficionado. It wasn’t.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby kath » 26 Apr 2021, 01:49

maybe it's one of those country vs. country things, but i got a "video is not available" tag for the peter hammill track.

if anyone else has this problem, here is what i got when i youtubed it. hope it's the right version, mwhaha.



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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby kath » 26 Apr 2021, 01:51

i do dig the hammill track. got its own kinda power and vibe.

but i'll take B. just more jammy and foot-tappin. hittin me right, right now. (as opposed to any other now. yeah.)


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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby C » 26 Apr 2021, 08:00

I love Peter Hammill's voice and, of course, VdGG are the ninth greatest band that ever walked the planet.

This is a lovely track but I can see that Peter is a bit of a marmite act.

This is (perhaps) a clever choice because this selection hasn't got any of his 'shouty' stuff which turns some folk off.

I can see Frank thinking this is only 'quasi-bobbins' and voting for it 'cos it is short.

Automatic Fine Tuning - from the mid-70s - I had forgotten them. My kid brother's mate Bulmer had this album and I liked it but never bought it. Perhaps it didn't quite grab me.

Perhaps that is what I am thinking now. I could hear Wishbone Ash from the opening bars so it's a bit derivative but whether it's claptrap is debatable.

It's a brisk, sprightly jaunt a track that would have the prog goons on a Friday evening/[afternoon in USA]:

foot tappin'
body swayin'
head noddin'

Whether it's got enough to vote for it...

I think not

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby Good Night Dallas, Texas » 26 Apr 2021, 16:09

Hammill and a piano not bad but i much prefer him with VDGG. B has nice twin lead guitar with and a real toe tapper.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby toomanyhatz » 26 Apr 2021, 21:32

I must admit from the outset that I tend to give quirky, personal prog more 'benefit of the doubt' than stuff mostly created to show off musicianship. But B is also more playful than most of its ilk, and the Hammill somewhat slight, so I'm torn.

I think B is engaging me more at the moment, but I reserve the right to change my mind.
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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby Purgatory Brite » 27 Apr 2021, 08:33

Strange choice of song by Hammill, I would have preferred on of his more grandiose works.

I liked the playing on the second track, but ultimately it didn't really deliver or go anywhere.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby trans-chigley express » 27 Apr 2021, 13:50

The Hammill track nice enough without being particularly remarkable but even non-shouty Hammill is not my favourite of voices.

B was like a second division Wishbone Ash who are themselves second division which makes this lot third division.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby Jumper K » 27 Apr 2021, 14:06

Its getting increasingly difficult to make a choice when presented with the likes of these 2.
I'm going with C's accurate description of B as Claptrap, but I'd add in the word wearisome.
A is indeed short but astonishingly no better for it. It has some poignancy, and the lyrics are a nice tribute. But it needs mellotrons, capes and a weird blown instrument. And somebody who can sing.
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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby pcqgod » 28 Apr 2021, 02:25

I didn't hate the Peter Hammill this time, but the other entry is much, much better.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby John aka Josh » 28 Apr 2021, 23:50

Found this a tough choice, and the more I played each the more I enjoyed each one.






B because the Hammill fell into more singer songwriter territory than the Gladioli pickers.
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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby never/ever » 30 Apr 2021, 22:25

I entered B in a few years ago myself,was really into that album at the time. Feel like I will be playing this again all weekend long....

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby LMG » 01 May 2021, 10:17

I love the Cup - this match descending into whether proceedings are in fact 'quasi-bobbins' or 'full on Bobbinsageddon'.

'he never was made for...middle-age'. A tribute to Keith Ellis of Juicy Lucy, Boxer, and Van Der Graaf Generator.

Gets my vote, Peter.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby Neige » 02 May 2021, 11:34

Fantastic guitar interplay by AFT, from a real one-off forgotten treasure of an album.

I do like VDGG, but Hammill's solo stuff often suffers from directionless meandering. This is mercifully short, but no exception.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby Hightea » 04 May 2021, 01:41

A- nice solo song by Peter- as someone who likes his distinct vocals and piano work. I’m a fool for solo piano work see Tori Amos :lol:

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B- nice duo guitar but really didn’t go anywhere or interest me much.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby Lord Rother » 04 May 2021, 16:08

pcqgod wrote:I didn't hate the Peter Hammill this time, but the other entry is much, much better.

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I agree with the learned gentleman.

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Re: PC21 Last Round Match 5

Postby never/ever » 06 May 2021, 00:37

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