Poor Phil

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks
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Poor Phil

Postby Deebank » 10 Sep 2021, 08:58

I noticed our erstwhile colleague Sensi posted about this on FB.

Phil Collins was on breakfast news yesterday and the poor old sod looked like shit. He said he could hardly even hold a drum stick these days let alone play. He will be singing from a wheel chair during Genesis's final tour, which he called 'putting the band to bed'.

I not relly a fan - not a fan of his solo work, although I like some Genesis and he was unarguably a fantastic, innovative drmmer. Actually the Collins sung Trick Of The Tale is one of my favourite Genesis efforts, up with Foxtrot even.

Anyway, very sad. He seems to have deteriorated quite quickly.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/sep/10/musician-phil-collins-can-barely-hold-a-drumstick?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2rx3W2ElLhMwjrEv1gGVgtnZzgoJdPurUPS1Hu6iz1U0wGWlTFsJfHxzc#Echobox=1631254002
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Rorschach » 10 Sep 2021, 09:03

Getting old is shit.
Bugger off.

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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Deebank » 10 Sep 2021, 09:16

Rorschach wrote:Getting old is shit.


You're not wrong.
The other two (in Gemesis) looked fit as fiddles though.
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Rayge » 10 Sep 2021, 09:41

Deebank wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Getting old is shit.


You're not wrong.


From my perspective as a 72-year-old, I'd say it's definitely more fun than the alternative.
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Deebank » 10 Sep 2021, 09:47

Rayge wrote:
Deebank wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Getting old is shit.


You're not wrong.


From my perspective as a 72-year-old, I'd say it's definitely more fun than the alternative.


There is that, yes. :)

I read PC's autobiography (I will read literally any 'rock' biography) and what I found amusing was that Collins was a 'Face' in ''60s London. He was a major fan of much fawned over Mod/garage outfit The Action. So much so that he played drums for them when they reformed in the 90s. It's a bastard when you find out the most hated of rock gentry is actually way cooler than you thought.
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Samoan » 10 Sep 2021, 09:56

I'd been following his misfortune (esp. as I have had C. spine problems since 1986 - lifting patient injury when a student nurse = multilevel cervical spine degenerative changes)

From what I heard, he had damaged vertebrae in his C.spine and got a rubbish, cheap (all he could afford) American Orthopaedic surgeon to operate and the op.left him even worse off.

Advice: If you are ever considering elective cervical spine surgery, do your due diligence on any surgeon you consider.
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Rorschach » 10 Sep 2021, 10:09

Rayge wrote:
Deebank wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Getting old is shit.


You're not wrong.


From my perspective as a 72-year-old, I'd say it's definitely more fun than the alternative.


I'm not so sure about that. Being dead may not be fun, but it's also not anything else.
I have permanent back pain, despite taking vast amounts of pain killers. I'm not saying I want to be dead but I don't think I'd describe what passes for my life as 'fun'.
Bugger off.

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Re: Poor Phil

Postby GoogaMooga » 10 Sep 2021, 11:35

Phil Collins' had one great solo hit, "In the Air Tonight", which even charted R&B and has been sampled many times. He also produced a couple of half decent albums for Clapton. And I am pretty sure the one Genesis song that I like, "Turn It on Again", is also Phil's.
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby GoogaMooga » 10 Sep 2021, 11:37

Rorschach wrote:
Rayge wrote:
Deebank wrote:
You're not wrong.


From my perspective as a 72-year-old, I'd say it's definitely more fun than the alternative.


I'm not so sure about that. Being dead may not be fun, but it's also not anything else.
I have permanent back pain, despite taking vast amounts of pain killers. I'm not saying I want to be dead but I don't think I'd describe what passes for my life as 'fun'.


Sounds like you have a hard time, but perhaps it is something you can get used to. I've got a chronic stiff neck which hampers my movement and gives me poor balance, but I have sort of gotten used to it now. But sharp pain like you describe here is in another league, of course.
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Minnie Cheddars » 10 Sep 2021, 15:05

Samoan wrote:I'd been following his misfortune (esp. as I have had C. spine problems since 1986 - lifting patient injury when a student nurse = multilevel cervical spine degenerative changes)

From what I heard, he had damaged vertebrae in his C.spine and got a rubbish, cheap (all he could afford) American Orthopaedic surgeon to operate and the op.left him even worse off.

Advice: If you are ever considering elective cervical spine surgery, do your due diligence on any surgeon you consider.


Where did you read the stuff about a cheap surgeon? I can’t find anything about the surgery details anywhere!
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Mike Boom » 10 Sep 2021, 15:35

Samoan wrote:he had damaged vertebrae in his C.spine and got a rubbish, cheap (all he could afford) American Orthopaedic surgeon to operate and the op.left him even worse off.


Sounds a bit odd that he would be strapped for cash, he's worth 300 Million .

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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Positive Passion » 10 Sep 2021, 16:44

Rorschach wrote:I have permanent back pain, despite taking vast amounts of pain killers. I'm not saying I want to be dead but I don't think I'd describe what passes for my life as 'fun'.


On the assumption you have not been diagnosed with some degenerative problem, or suffered some particular injury, my suggestion would be to sleep on a thick futon mattress. For many years From aged about 18 to aged about 32 I suffered from intense back pain all the time, whether standing sitting or laying down. After six months on a futon ( they take a bit of getting used to) the problem had gone. I still use a futon mattress ( on an ordinary bed). You may also need to do more abdominal muscle exercises.

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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Rorschach » 10 Sep 2021, 20:12

Positive Passion wrote:
Rorschach wrote:I have permanent back pain, despite taking vast amounts of pain killers. I'm not saying I want to be dead but I don't think I'd describe what passes for my life as 'fun'.


On the assumption you have not been diagnosed with some degenerative problem, or suffered some particular injury, my suggestion would be to sleep on a thick futon mattress. For many years From aged about 18 to aged about 32 I suffered from intense back pain all the time, whether standing sitting or laying down. After six months on a futon ( they take a bit of getting used to) the problem had gone. I still use a futon mattress ( on an ordinary bed). You may also need to do more abdominal muscle exercises.


I have a herniated disc.. I do all sorts of back stretching and it makes it bearable most of the time.
I also have a pretty solid mattress.
It's just an age thing.

But enough about me! This is about Phil!
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby mudshark » 10 Sep 2021, 22:22

Phil Collins is in bad shape, just like Rorschach.
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over

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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Samoan » 11 Sep 2021, 10:22

Minnie Cheddars wrote:
Samoan wrote:...
.....

From what I heard, he had damaged vertebrae in his C.spine and got a rubbish, cheap (all he could afford) American Orthopaedic surgeon to operate and the op.left him even worse off.

Advice: If you are ever considering elective cervical spine surgery, do your due diligence on any surgeon you consider.


Where did you read the stuff about a cheap surgeon? I can’t find anything about the surgery details anywhere!

There's here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=phil+co ... %20seconds

https://www.google.com/search?q=phil+co ... 7JWAAg&oq=
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Re: Poor Phil

Postby Minnie Cheddars » 11 Sep 2021, 13:25

Samoan wrote:
Minnie Cheddars wrote:
Samoan wrote:...
.....

From what I heard, he had damaged vertebrae in his C.spine and got a rubbish, cheap (all he could afford) American Orthopaedic surgeon to operate and the op.left him even worse off.

Advice: If you are ever considering elective cervical spine surgery, do your due diligence on any surgeon you consider.


Where did you read the stuff about a cheap surgeon? I can’t find anything about the surgery details anywhere!

There's here.

https://www.google.com/search?q=phil+co ... %20seconds

https://www.google.com/search?q=phil+co ... 7JWAAg&oq=


Yeah, those were all the articles I read to try and find out where it was mentioned that the surgeon was rubbish and cheap - but none of them say that.
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