Very clever argument, all those emojis followed by a sarcastic comment. That's got Geezee gripped in the iron jaws of reason.
I think what he says is largely correct. It was pretty certain that the vaccines would be OK but they didn't apply rigorous standards in testing in the UK that they did in other parts of the world. They got away with this time but if they'd been unlucky it could have turned out to be another thalidomide. You know that thalidomide didn't affect the USA, don't you? It never got approval because they required more rigorous testing.
Maybe you wouldn't be laughing so hard if that had happened with the AstraZeneca vaccine, you buffoon.
Which would all be well and good if it weren't for the fact that Europe wasn't hesistant, it simply forgot to order any vaccines. The complete failure of the EU, and the lazy corrupt and smug governments therein in to act quickly has left them looking weak and incompetent.And if you want to argue about trials, then the shortest trial of a similar vaccine should be five years. Do you see those brilliant and cleverer than everyone else eurpean bureaucrats all waiting five years? Are they? No they fucking well are not. They have started jabbing at the first opportunity, as soon as the vaccines that they failed to order arrived. So Geezee's point is utter bollocks , as is your support of it. That is why I have had a vaccine, and you probably won't get yours until after xmas.
I've been away, but there is not one part of my outline that is not true, or at least feel free to point out where i was not and I'd be happy to review. The EU DID buy massive amounts of vaccines - more per capita than the UK. And of course that is nothing at all to be proud of for either country/region - they have bought far more than what either needed (~5 doses per person per country). The US/Canada even worse (Canada prepurchased 9 doses per person). And of course, in doing so, they ensure that they shut off access to countries in emerging markets who are not even able to vaccinate the most vulnerable at this stage. We could - and should - have defeated the pandemic by now (converting it into a fully manageable series of minor epidemics with very low hospitalisation/mortality). But the advanced purchase agreements that the UK and Europe pioneered completely skewed the global response. Absolutely nothing to be proud of for any country in the West, and plenty to be very embarrassed about. But the UK took it a step further by also demanding exclusivity, which meant that they created an export ban of any vaccine from the UK. And of course it then all comes down to luck - AZ (as a complete novice to the vaccine market) had a disastrous development programme and supply chain management for its vaccine, and UK/Europe had thrown their eggs in that basket. US had thrown their eggs with Pfizer/Moderna. US got lucky because the Pfizer/Moderna vaccine results are beyond amazing (and very unexpected given the completely unproven mRNA technologieS); Europe got screwed because a) the AZ vaccine, while highly effective, was so badly managed and b) UK shut off its part of the supply chain for the AZ vaccine (while Europe still exported to the UK as it is meant to be an integrated and inter-dependent supply chain). Europe then switched over to Pfizer/Moderna/JnJ, UK is still largely sticking with AZ and its incredible spaced-out dosing trial.
By all accounts, the UK and Europe will reach herd immunity at around the same time around this summer. Yes, some countries in Europe are at the moment experiencing higher infection rates - but that is only the delayed epidemics that the UK kicked off with at the beginning of the year. If the UK's third wave had started a bit later, it would be just as bad. The UK still has the most disastrous outcomes of the pandemic, both from a health and economic perspective, across these 15 months. Again, plenty of factors go into that, but this sudden "pride" that the UK got this part right is astonishing and highly misrepresented in the UK.