Former President Donald J. Trump

[Mike Boom]

Now he's simulating oral sex with the microphone .


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-microphone-rally-election-b2640259.html




Just the guy you want with the nuclear codes.

[mudshark]

I don't think I've ever been more worried about your future.

[Mike Boom]

I don't think I've ever been more worried about your future.

Nothing to worry about, he will put RFK in charge of health, and he will put a stop to crazy shit like vaccinations against diseases !

[Lord Rother]

Oh America, you stupid fcuked up country, what have you done?

[Walk In My Shadow]

4 more years of the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer.

Unless the Canadians invbade aided by the Inuit. And the Mexican spend their coke dollars on blowing up the wall.

And the Russians can easily concquer Alaska.

And everyone can count on the Harris states to lend a hand.

And get Cuba in on the deal.


If you really don't want the orange one people you know what to do.

[robertff]

Someone will need to change the title of this thread.





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[Mike Boom]

Oligarchy here we come.

[Deebank]

What I find strange is that objectively Harris didn’t put a foot wrong and Trump’s campaign was one fuck up after another gaffe.

None of it made an iota of difference.

The thing about Trump is he is a simpleton on every level. His politics are ‘I like people who like me’ and ‘I like policies that I think are good for me / reflect well on me personally’.

What is really scary is that he may well prove to be the brake on the more extreme and doctrinaire members of his regime.

Whatever, we’re all fucked.

[Samoan]

Unfortunately, I don't think he's a simpleton at all.

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/cha ... /76007-311

For those who can/want to see it (probably UK and those signed up to watch Channel 4 ) some interesting insight into Trump-psyche from his nephew, Fred Trump III
(Frederick Crist "Fritz" Trump III (born November 1962) from 34.00 onwards on last night's news. He's not a fan.

A later clip at 43.00 shows one Fred Fleitz interviewed who is apoplectic with rage at C4's above interview and it turns into a shouting match.

[Samoan]

double post

[Deebank]

Unfortunately, I don't think he's a simpleton at all.

He has a certain level of cunning but he is a dumbass.

[BARON CORNY DOG]

What I find strange is that objectively Harris didn’t put a foot wrong and Trump’s campaign was one fuck up after another gaffe.

None of it made an iota of difference.

The thing about Trump is he is a simpleton on every level. His politics are ‘I like people who like me’ and ‘I like policies that I think are good for me / reflect well on me personally’.

What is really scary is that he may well prove to be the brake on the more extreme and doctrinaire members of his regime.

Whatever, we’re all fucked.

It is extraordinary. Her campaign was almost pitch perfect, with maybe one or two very slight missteps. None of it matters at all. It's the economy and a feeling that the Biden administration has been listless (I think by and large he's executed the job very well, but has been incapable of making that case to the public and using the bully pulpit, which is part of the job . . . perception is all that matters). Objectively, the economy has been recovering and improving steadily throughout the Biden Administration, but people don't feel it and there's a generally pessimistic malaise, which is probably global but amplified here. People know Trump is what he is, but for otherwise disengaged voters, his presidency wasn't so bad after all, at least for them, and he projects power and confidence. I'm sure it would have been preferable had Biden announced he wasn't seeking a second term to allow ventilation of ideas and to allow voters to weigh in, but in the end, I can't think of another possible D candidate who would've made a difference.

And, most horrifyingly, the only saving grace of the first Trump presidency was its incompetence at manning the helm of the executive branch. He was hobbled by ignorance on the part of his activist advisers and institutionalists in his cabinet and norms of the executive branch, both of which managed to cabin his worst impulses and ideas. People have spent the last four years planning how to reduce the friction that would slow down radical change and he'll be surrounded by people who are totally beholden to him and fixed on that project. And, if they are humble enough, Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas can retire from the Supreme Court and be replaced by younger models who are even more insane.

[Hightea]

Like state he won.
Not surprised and frightened.

The Dems did a bad job of explaining the economy to the poor republicans were never told the correct thing.
They all stated were we better off 4 years(they are still stating it). That wasn't the question it should have been would we have been better off if Trump got 4 more years. The entire world had inflation since Covid (never heard this out of any dem running for office) and under Trump it would have been worse while Biden's admin had been putting dents into inflation. Sadly, they will all find out in the next few years what they have done and sadly when it goes sour they will blame it on Biden.

[Neige]

And, most horrifyingly, the only saving grace of the first Trump presidency was its incompetence at manning the helm of the executive branch. He was hobbled by ignorance on the part of his activist advisers and institutionalists in his cabinet and norms of the executive branch, both of which managed to cabin his worst impulses and ideas. People have spent the last four years planning how to reduce the friction that would slow down radical change and he'll be surrounded by people who are totally beholden to him and fixed on that project. And, if they are humble enough, Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas can retire from the Supreme Court and be replaced by younger models who are even more insane.

This... and it's very frightening!

while all the important European powers have problems of their own (which will be exacerbated by whatever lunacy, econmic or other, the US will come up with)

[Mike Boom]

Never heard any Dems push him on global warming either. He was asked during the debate and avoided the question, surprise , surprise.

We don’t have 4 years to waste while he drills drills drills, so yeah , the next time Florida floods , or California burns perhaps someone might mention the cost of ignorance, but I won’t hold my breath.

[Mike Boom]

The Republicans spent over $215 million on ads slamming Kamala Harris and Democrats in general for funding trans issues and gender surgeries, its all we saw here in Texas for months, ads about how Harris was funding trans gender surgeries in prisons and Colin Allred in Texas was campaigning for men to take over women sports and even that he didnt know the difference between boys and girls. This was all we heard for months.

Of course its all bullshit but thats what they do, set you up with false narratives then bash you for it.

Sure seems to work because people buy it.

[Santa C]

Former US House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said Democrats might have fared better in Tuesday's election if President Joe Biden had exited the race sooner.
Pelosi - one of the most powerful politicians in Washington - told the New York Times that "had the president gotten out sooner, there may have been other candidates in the race".

Well…?



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[Samoan]

There may well have been but it would have been more apposite if Pelosi had articulated that more conclusively many months ago instead of sneaking around breaching Covid restrictions on hair dressing so she could look good.

[mudshark]

I'm disappointed but not surprised, as mentioned in earlier contributions. And I certainly don't think the Harris campaign was that good. But it wasn't easy for them. Our felon-in-waiting has effectively been campaigning for 8 years! Would the democrats have had a hope in hell if Joe had announced from the start that he was going to be a one-term prez? Probably not. The border situation IS a complete mess, and inflation is hurting a lot of people that earn less than $75K a year. For every dollar spent 3 years ago you need $1.50 today. It's as simple as that. And I don't think this problem was properly addressed by the current government. But things are on the mend, and it looks like Trump is going to inherite a failry healthy economy - again. It's up to him and his friends to fuck it up. I sincerely hope they do, so that after the mid-terms Congress will turn blue. Now where did I put my bitcoin?

[Lord Rother]

I looked at podcast ratings earlier as a result of watching one of the constructive reviews into the Dems failure which highlighted the fact that it was naive in the extreme to think that the odd populist podcast interview in the last few weeks could overcome the sheer weight of 4+ years of relentless hammering by Rogan, Kirk, Shapiro, Carlson, Kelly on the most listened to medium of the day.

Message was that Dems have totally missed the boat on that and it was going to take a monumental effort, starting right now, to make inroads into the lost ground to have a fighting chance in 2028.

Trump WILL fcuk everything up big-time, of that we can be almost certain, but it is also pretty clear now that vast swathes of the country will totally buy it when he blames the Dems for every one of his own failures, as he will surely do.

These are the top (non Sport / non kids) Podcasts in USA with political leanings coloured as best I understand them.

Guess it says a lot.

The blue ones are typical of Dems and (compared to the Reps) a fairly light hue in content and style of messaging - the red ones are almost exclusively out and out rabid. It's not really in their nature but it seems Dems will need to shake off their squeamishness about this sort of thing and find a way to break the hold.

1 Joe Rogan
The Joe Rogan Experience

4 Charlie Kirk
The Charlie Kirk Show

5 Crooked Media
Pod Save America

6 Tucker Carlson Network
The Tucker Carlson Show

7 Comedy Central
The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

8 The New York Times
The Daily

9 Candace Owens
Candace

10 SiriusXM
The Megyn Kelly Show

12 The Daily Wire
The Ben Shapiro Show

13 Shawn Ryan
Shawn Ryan Show

15 NPR
Up First from NPR