100 Greatest Albums of 1989

[C]

A little harsh I would say.


Don’t really see what your gripe is with it though, unless the records listed are not really your thing, which looking at your list appears to be so.

It's not that the records listed are not my thing, it's that the criteria is bullshit. It's someone attempting to list their own opinions as some kind of objective list. Bonnie Raitt's "Nick of Time" is not in the top 10 because of its "lasting popularity and influence and impact on rock music in general". That would be a ludicrous claim. It's indefensible. Are you telling me that the compiler looked at all available facts and thought "Hmm, yes, objectively, John Couger Mellancamp's Big Daddy is just that bit more critically acclaimed and more influential than Sepultura's Beneath the Remains"?

It's complete nonsense.

The Spice Girls were ‘critically acclaimed’ - that’s good enough for me







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[Darkness_Fish]

But where would you rank them against Sepultura, Technotronic, or Richard Marx, objectively?

[BARON CORNY DOG]

Sepultura
Technotronic
Spice Girls
Richard Marx

[Darkness_Fish]

Bollocks, that's the right answer. Perhaps it's ok then.

[C]

But where would you rank them against Sepultura, Technotronic, or Richard Marx, objectively?

Above all of this shower



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[robertff]

A little harsh I would say.


Don’t really see what your gripe is with it though, unless the records listed are not really your thing, which looking at your list appears to be so.

It's not that the records listed are not my thing, it's that the criteria is bullshit. It's someone attempting to list their own opinions as some kind of objective list. Bonnie Raitt's "Nick of Time" is not in the top 10 because of its "lasting popularity and influence and impact on rock music in general". That would be a ludicrous claim. It's indefensible. Are you telling me that the compiler looked at all available facts and thought "Hmm, yes, objectively, John Couger Mellancamp's Big Daddy is just that bit more critically acclaimed and more influential than Sepultura's Beneath the Remains"?

It's complete nonsense.

Ignore it then and the list for that matter.



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[Darkness_Fish]

Don't be like that, there's no need for the eye-rolling, defend it if you don't think it's bollocks.

Start with Babyface's Tender Lover having a longer lasting impact and influence than Morbid Angel's Altars of Madness. Or Michael Bolton vs Elvis Costello. Whatever.

[robertff]

Don't be like that, there's no need for the eye-rolling, defend it if you don't think it's bollocks.

Start with Babyface's Tender Lover having a longer lasting impact and influence than Morbid Angel's Altars of Madness. Or Michael Bolton vs Elvis Costello. Whatever.

I don’t need to defend it - it’s not my list.


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[Darkness_Fish]

But you said "Don’t really see what your gripe is with it though, unless the records listed are not really your thing".

And I explained my gripe, and get a fairly patronising eye-roll dismissal. Don't mean to be antagonistic, it's not really my thing. But that doesn't seem fair to me.

[robertff]

But you said "Don’t really see what your gripe is with it though, unless the records listed are not really your thing".

And I explained my gripe, and get a fairly patronising eye-roll dismissal. Don't mean to be antagonistic, it's not really my thing. But that doesn't seem fair to me.

You’re moaning about the criteria not being to your liking or valid, I can’t do anything about the criteria one person, or perhaps a group of people, decided why they would choose that list of records as the best of that particular year. For all I know they used every small piece of data they could get their hands on. The only reason I included the criteria in the list is because it would seem inappropriate of me not to do so, as it was someone else’s list and that it what they had at the top of it as justification.

You don’t like the list, you don’t like the criteria, (or in your view the invalid criteria), the person or persons used to determine the list - fine. You’ve made your point - what is there to keep on about?

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[Darkness_Fish]

I didn't keep on about it. It just seemed like a conversation till you went a bit brusquely weird and eye-rolly. I didn't say we had to do anything about the criteria, that would be distinctly odd. I'm not petitioning parliament to have it abolished. But some kind of acknowledgement that it is in fact bullshit and there is no such 'data' would seem fairly uncontroversial.

[Rorschach]

Don't stop now! I've just put the popcorn in the microwave.

[Darkness_Fish]

I've never microwaved popcorn, does it not go soggy?

[C]

Fight, fight, fight!






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[robertff]

I didn't keep on about it. It just seemed like a conversation till you went a bit brusquely weird and eye-rolly. I didn't say we had to do anything about the criteria, that would be distinctly odd. I'm not petitioning parliament to have it abolished. But some kind of acknowledgement that it is in fact bullshit and there is no such 'data' would seem fairly uncontroversial.

Not going to happen.


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[Andrews Sisters Conundrum]

acknowledge! acknowledge!

[Darkness_Fish]

Bit weird to have an opinion but refuse to express it, beyond as an article of faith. But whatever, this has gone on long enough, and I'm not here to ruin Christmas for anyone.

[northernsky]

Automatic - The Jesus and Mary Chain



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Nah.
I love the Mary Chain - saw them most recently in Stockholm in March, and they were great - but Automatic is shit. I enjoy it, but it’s shit. It can’t have been the plan to sound like a Poundstore-knockoff of Eliminator-era ZZ Top. Or maybe it was