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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby bobzilla77 » 05 Sep 2024, 00:25

I saw Liam open for the Who and I'll say this, unless his voice has been lost in the last five years, he can sing their hits as good as he did before. That's a good bit of "will it be worth it" settled for the good I think.
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby copehead » 05 Sep 2024, 12:57

C wrote:Copey- I was listening to heavier stuff in the 90s most of which was American

I’m not very good at remembering 90s bands but perhaps Belly, Throwing Muses, Husker Du, Pavement, Breeders, Bob Mould, Built to Spill, Dinosaur Jr had albums in the 90s

I gave up with NEW MUSIC after that




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And who can blame you.

But there is some good stuff amongst the Brit Pop dross, inevitably.

I was happy that Brit Pop came along because I never really got the whole shoegazey scene, I liked a bit of Spacemen 3 and
Loop, and Obviously MBV, but it had all gone a bit American and it was nice to get some decent UK bands again.

Because while I liked bits of grunge and bands like Sugar, it all got a bit meagre between 89-93 roughly.

Then Suede and the Manics made it all good again

I'm pretty sure you'd like Super Furry Animals and Gorky's as there is a proggy side to both of them
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby mudshark » 05 Sep 2024, 15:57

I wouldn't put Gorky's under the "Britpop" moniker. Their music is very folkish and - dare I say? - proggy. Psychedelic, even! Despite that, I very much like this band. 'Barafundle' and 'The Blue Trees' are my favorites. I'm sure Carlsson would agree if he had the guts to step up to the plate.
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby Hightea » 06 Sep 2024, 03:07

Darkness_Fish wrote:
BARON CORNY DOG wrote:Well like I said, what do I know. I’m sure you know better. But it seems weird to me. They couldn’t get arrested in the states back in the day and have nothing like the profile they do in the uk. It’s a funny world.

It's a bit strange, because it wasn't difficult to get tickets for them back then, and they weren't particularly good live. It's just one of those things that if someone famous stops doing something for a while, the collective public consciousness seems to decide that they were great at it. I genuinely didn't think their profile was THAT high over here either. I remember being a bit baffled at the televised gig that followed the Manchester Arena bombing, they kept going on about someone really special appearing soon as a guest slot ... and then it was Liam Gallagher, and I was kind of ... oh.


If they are only doing 5 tour dates at these big stadiums it should sell out although maybe not (lately seems to be a put back on large stadium shows not named Taylor). Certainly if they were just playing arenas. Could be wrong but looking how the UK shows sold out we will also have an influx of UK folks coming to NY show at least. Still sure cheap tickets will show up the last few days before show seems to be the norm now. Times have changed and lot more older folks(let alone young ones) now going to shows who might not have seen them back in the day.

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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby pcqgod » 06 Sep 2024, 05:53

copehead wrote:
The following are NOT Britpop in any shape or form other than releasing records in the 90s.

60 Ft. Dolls
Ash
The Auteurs
Babybird
Black Grape
The Bluetones
Blur
The Boo Radleys
Cast
Catatonia
The Charlatans
Cornershop
Delicatessen
Denim
The Divine Comedy
Dodgy
Echobelly
Elastica
Embrace
Gay Dad
Gene
Geneva
Gorky's Zygotic Mynci
Heavy Stereo
James
Kenickie
Kinky Machine
Kula Shaker
The Lightning Seeds
Longpigs
Lush
Manic Street Preachers
Mansun
Marion
McAlmont & Butler
Me Me Me
Menswear
My Life Story
Northern Uproar
Oasis
Ocean Colour Scene
Powder
Pulp
Radiohead
Reef
Rialto
Ride
Saint Etienne

Salad
The Seahorses
Shed Seven
Silver Sun
Shampoo
Sleeper
S*M*A*S*H
Stereophonics
Strangelove
Suede
Super Furry Animals
Supergrass
The Supernaturals
Teenage Fanclub
Theaudience
These Animal Men
Travis
The Verve



You mean the ones that are crossed out are not Britpop? I never thought Teenage Fanclub or St. Etienne were Britpop. Certainly much better than any bands actually labelled as Britpop,
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby copehead » 06 Sep 2024, 15:59

pcqgod wrote:
copehead wrote:
The following are NOT Britpop in any shape or form other than releasing records in the 90s.

60 Ft. Dolls
Ash
The Auteurs
Babybird
Black Grape
The Bluetones
Blur
The Boo Radleys
Cast
Catatonia
The Charlatans
Cornershop
Delicatessen
Denim
The Divine Comedy
Dodgy
Echobelly
Elastica
Embrace
Gay Dad
Gene
Geneva
Gorky's Zygotic Mynci
Heavy Stereo
James
Kenickie
Kinky Machine
Kula Shaker
The Lightning Seeds
Longpigs
Lush
Manic Street Preachers
Mansun
Marion
McAlmont & Butler
Me Me Me
Menswear
My Life Story
Northern Uproar
Oasis
Ocean Colour Scene
Powder
Pulp
Radiohead
Reef
Rialto
Ride
Saint Etienne

Salad
The Seahorses
Shed Seven
Silver Sun
Shampoo
Sleeper
S*M*A*S*H
Stereophonics
Strangelove
Suede
Super Furry Animals
Supergrass
The Supernaturals
Teenage Fanclub
Theaudience
These Animal Men
Travis
The Verve



You mean the ones that are crossed out are not Britpop? I never thought Teenage Fanclub or St. Etienne were Britpop. Certainly much better than any bands actually labelled as Britpop,


I agree, they are just bands who released music during that period. I think you could add even more - Stereophonics, Reef and the Seahorses were old fashioned rock bands, Gorky's, as pointed out above and a proggy folk band

Carlsson should definitely give Barafundle a go if pastoral prog is in anyway his thing
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby NMB » 06 Sep 2024, 23:22

The Boo Radleys head and shoulders above the rest.

Teenage Fanclub have one song I’d like played at my funeral (Gene Clarke).

And then I really don’t care anymore.
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby frimley_greener » 07 Sep 2024, 07:44

I think they represented the arse end of Manchester.
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby copehead » 08 Sep 2024, 16:06

NMB wrote:The Boo Radleys head and shoulders above the rest.

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I'm with Luke Haines when it comes to them

He is hilariously dismissive in his book Bad Vibes.

Which is a must read music autobiog
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby Hightea » 04 Oct 2024, 19:20

Hightea wrote:
Darkness_Fish wrote:
BARON CORNY DOG wrote:Well like I said, what do I know. I’m sure you know better. But it seems weird to me. They couldn’t get arrested in the states back in the day and have nothing like the profile they do in the uk. It’s a funny world.

It's a bit strange, because it wasn't difficult to get tickets for them back then, and they weren't particularly good live. It's just one of those things that if someone famous stops doing something for a while, the collective public consciousness seems to decide that they were great at it. I genuinely didn't think their profile was THAT high over here either. I remember being a bit baffled at the televised gig that followed the Manchester Arena bombing, they kept going on about someone really special appearing soon as a guest slot ... and then it was Liam Gallagher, and I was kind of ... oh.


If they are only doing 5 tour dates at these big stadiums it should sell out although maybe not (lately seems to be a put back on large stadium shows not named Taylor). Certainly if they were just playing arenas. Could be wrong but looking how the UK shows sold out we will also have an influx of UK folks coming to NY show at least. Still sure cheap tickets will show up the last few days before show seems to be the norm now. Times have changed and lot more older folks(let alone young ones) now going to shows who might not have seen them back in the day.

so tickets went on sale today for all USA shows they are doing larger stadiums and all shows sold out in 15 -20 minutes. Most of my friends couldn't even get tickets. I did!

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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby C » 04 Oct 2024, 20:40

Derivative claptrap




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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby BARON CORNY DOG » 07 Oct 2024, 12:27

Hightea wrote:so tickets went on sale today for all USA shows they are doing larger stadiums and all shows sold out in 15 -20 minutes. Most of my friends couldn't even get tickets. I did!


Shows what I know! Enjoy the show.
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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby Hightea » 08 Oct 2024, 19:45

C wrote:Derivative claptrap




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yeap exactly why I like them

Sounds like 60-70's
different hooks and melodies but similair.
different lyrics in a style like the past
no over the top singing like modern pop.

checks all the boxes! ;)

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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby robertff » 08 Oct 2024, 19:48

Hightea wrote:
C wrote:Derivative claptrap




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yeap exactly why I like them

Sounds like 60-70's
different hooks and melodies but similair.
different lyrics in a style like the past
no over the top singing like modern pop.

checks all the boxes! ;)



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Re: Oasis - so what do you think?

Postby cheifwhat » 25 Oct 2024, 00:09

They were criticized back in the day as being a copy of the Beatles, however, I heard a comment about Oasis, then that still holds true now. I don't remember it exactly, but essentially they are an ok copy of just one string in the Bealtes bow. They have nowhere near the invention and originality of the Beatles. All their later songs sound like poor reworkings of the earlier stuff from "Definitely Maybe" and "Be Here Now", and they sound like copies of early Beatles songs. I like the two albums mentioned, but I don't understand why anyone would want to hear any more.
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