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Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby GoogaMooga » 27 Jan 2024, 02:40

So Ozzy Osbourne is going to perform one last time. Back in Birmingham where it all started. He has had a remarkable career both with band and solo, and has played a large part in my musical education, so to speak.

Although heavy metal will never be a favorite, Black Sabbath stood apart, and I am still kicking myself for passing on them at the Roskilde Festival in 1998.

"Master of Reality" is the one to get, right? So far I have found my Sabs CDs in thrift, but "Master of Reality" looks likely to be a purchase at full retail or more.
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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby C » 27 Jan 2024, 10:14

GoogaMooga wrote:Although heavy metal will never be a favorite, Black Sabbath stood apart

"Master of Reality" is the one to get, right?


I've never thought of Sabbath as heavy metal but hard rock. To me, the term 'heavy metal' is very 80s...

I always think that Paranoid is an excellent place for anybody to start but the first six albums are essential with Master of Reality being in the top 3 (of Ozzy vocal albums)

Check out the Ronnie James Dio Sabbath albums like Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules - superb albums, superb vocals





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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby robertff » 27 Jan 2024, 12:16

As C. said the first six with Ozzy are the essential ones to get, all worth having. After that you need to tread carefully.

C. has a soft spot for Ronnie James Dio, I don’t. Like Chris Farlowe he was a bit like a wandering vocalist, filling in when the better vocalist had gone. Sabbath without Ozzy were never the same.

Also agree with C. about the use of the heavy metal term. I don’t remember it being used back then when the Sabs started or indeed into the 70s, everything was either heavy then, as Jeff Beck wrote on the back of Beck-Ola, or progressive rock but not heavy metal. Even ‘hard rock’ as a term was not really in use as such until Bad Company came along. Seem to remember them as being labelled ‘hard rock’.


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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby C » 27 Jan 2024, 13:27

robertff wrote:C. has a soft spot for Ronnie James Dio, I don’t. Like Chris Farlowe he was a bit like a wandering vocalist, filling in when the better vocalist had gone.

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True I adore Ronnie’s voice but the rest is somewhat harsh…!

A ‘wandering vocalist’ - I like that

I’ll take Ronnie over Ozzy any day

Deep down, from what I’ve read, Iommi rates Dio too




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Postby C » 27 Jan 2024, 14:57

C wrote: from what I’ve read, Iommi rates Dio too

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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby GoogaMooga » 27 Jan 2024, 17:14

Actually, the term "heavy metal" first appeared in a review of a Jimi Hendrix album back in 67ish. Then you got Blue Cheer and the godfathers of heavy metal, Black Sabbath. I agree that much of the music that could be deemed heavy metal, was really hard rock. Heavy metal and metal as terms just crept into the vocabulary over a long time.
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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby GoogaMooga » 27 Jan 2024, 17:15

Oh, I sold all my Dio. Don't like it at all. Give me Ozzy's plaintive wailing.
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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby C » 27 Jan 2024, 17:48

GoogaMooga wrote:Actually, the term "heavy metal" first appeared in a review of a Jimi Hendrix album back in 67ish. Then you got Blue Cheer and the godfathers of heavy metal, Black Sabbath. I agree that much of the music that could be deemed heavy metal, was really hard rock. Heavy metal and metal as terms just crept into the vocabulary over a long time.


Maybe - but as Rob and I say, and we are both 70 plus, so were around at the time, the term may have been used but it never caught on until much later

Budgie, in my day, were hard rock and then from the 80s they were referred to heavy metal....




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Postby GoogaMooga » 27 Jan 2024, 18:05

C wrote:Maybe - but as Rob and I say, and we are both 70 plus, so were around at the time, the term may have been used but it never caught on until much later

Budgie, in my day, were hard rock and then from the 80s they were referred to heavy metal....




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Yes, that is essentially what I am saying, too, so we are in agreement here. I think it was the plethora of hair metal bands in the 80s that helped popularize the term.
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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby C » 27 Jan 2024, 18:23

GoogaMooga wrote:
C wrote:Maybe - but as Rob and I say, and we are both 70 plus, so were around at the time, the term may have been used but it never caught on until much later

Budgie, in my day, were hard rock and then from the 80s they were referred to heavy metal....




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Yes, that is essentially what I am saying, too, so we are in agreement here. I think it was the plethora of hair metal bands in the 80s that helped popularize the term.


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Postby pcqgod » 27 Jan 2024, 18:59

Paranoid is a good starter album since it has some of their better known (and essential) tracks. My favorite is Vol. 4, however.
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Postby C » 27 Jan 2024, 19:53

pcqgod wrote:Paranoid is a good starter album since it has some of their better known (and essential) tracks. My favorite is Vol. 4, however.


Yes, the first four are awesome

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I have a soft spot for their eponymous debut - I saw them on that tour




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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby Matt Wilson » 27 Jan 2024, 20:59

The first SIX are awesome.

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Postby C » 27 Jan 2024, 21:44

Matt Wilson wrote:The first SIX are awesome.


Yes, I mentioned the first six earlier

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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby C » 28 Jan 2024, 09:33

GoogaMooga wrote:Actually, the term "heavy metal" first appeared in a review of a Jimi Hendrix album back in 67ish. Then you got Blue Cheer and the godfathers of heavy metal, Black Sabbath. I agree that much of the music that could be deemed heavy metal, was really hard rock. Heavy metal and metal as terms just crept into the vocabulary over a long time.


Googs-lad, note the title of an album I was spinning this morning from 1972:

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In my original post I wrote 'hard rock or heavy rock' but took out the latter when I posted

If my memory serves me correctly, heavy rock was more frequently used than hard rock.

The old boy Rob may have recollections on this



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C wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:Actually, the term "heavy metal" first appeared in a review of a Jimi Hendrix album back in 67ish. Then you got Blue Cheer and the godfathers of heavy metal, Black Sabbath. I agree that much of the music that could be deemed heavy metal, was really hard rock. Heavy metal and metal as terms just crept into the vocabulary over a long time.


Googs-lad, note the title of an album I was spinning this morning from 1972:

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In my original post I wrote 'hard rock or heavy rock' but took out the latter when I posted

If my memory serves me correctly, heavy rock was more frequently used than hard rock.

The old boy Rob may have recollections on this

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As I made reference to in my initial post on this thread C.


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Postby C » 28 Jan 2024, 15:27

robertff wrote:As I made reference to in my initial post on this thread C.

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C wrote:
robertff wrote:As I made reference to in my initial post on this thread C.

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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby The Slider » 28 Jan 2024, 17:50

ALL the Ozzy Sabbath albums are great
As are the first two Dios
After *that* treat with caution.
They didn't put a foot wrong up to Mob Rules.
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Re: Ozzy Osbourne's farewell gigs

Postby C » 28 Jan 2024, 18:02

The Slider wrote:ALL the Ozzy Sabbath albums are great
As are the first two Dios
After *that* treat with caution.
They didn't put a foot wrong up to Mob Rules.


I wondered when you’d turn up lad!

At the time Technical Ecstasy was very disappointing and a big turn off

In fact I didn’t recover until Ronnie came along

H&H and Mob Rules are robust stuff

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