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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 17 Sep 2024, 01:55

Grant Green is revered by some on this board. I've listened to quite a bit of his stuff that was good/palatable, but more material that reeked of mediocrity. Each his own taste, so be it. But I don't think anyone considering himself a jazz cat can deny that 'pound for pound' Mr. Kenny Burrell is superior. Right now I'm listening to his Midnight Blue (I don't know how to do the picture copying thingy: if you have Elvis' Almost Blue album you Almost have the same thing because he nicked it). This is simply the coolest Jazz-blues you'll ever hear in your hopefully very long life.

I checked this here board to find out if Mr.. Burrell's music was discussed before. Not so much. What little there is, is all about an alleged scheme by his wife to get some shopping money through a Gofundme campaign. Not sure of the outcome, and frankly darling... It's about the music, and when it comes to Jazz guitarists from yesteryear, it's just about the gold standard. 93 years old, played on something like 453,658 albums, but struggling to survive. "How Can a Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live?"

Next up: 'Jaco'. An old favorite picked up last week from Volume Music at Sawdust Ave, Woodlands TX for a mere 7 bucks. Wonder if I still like it as much as I did when I bought it way back then. Of course, in those days I had to work a few weeks to get enough money for a vinyl purchase, so there was no friggin' way you were not going to like it. Although some of those financial barriers have been removed, I'm still like a kid in a record store when roaming around. I'm so happy that vinyl is back, with a vengeance.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 17 Sep 2024, 20:06

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Freddie Hubbard - Here To Stay

Arrived in the post today after a circuitous journey, a fab gift from a dear friend.

What a terrific, relaxing midweek album.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 17 Sep 2024, 20:19

I'll try to find in on Qobuz for my commute. I usually don't find Freddy's stuff relaxing at all, so I'm curious now.

NB: just checked this one on Discogs: It's a double-LP, which is a bit rich since there's only 38-39 minutes of musi on it.
And the median price is $150.00 (highest $277.00). Must be something special!
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 18 Sep 2024, 18:52

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

Kenny G may never have happened.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Spock! » 18 Sep 2024, 23:29

mudshark wrote:Grant Green is revered by some on this board. I've listened to quite a bit of his stuff that was good/palatable, but more material that reeked of mediocrity. Each his own taste, so be it. But I don't think anyone considering himself a jazz cat can deny that 'pound for pound' Mr. Kenny Burrell is superior. Right now I'm listening to his Midnight Blue (I don't know how to do the picture copying thingy: if you have Elvis' Almost Blue album you Almost have the same thing because he nicked it). This is simply the coolest Jazz-blues you'll ever hear in your hopefully very long life.

I checked this here board to find out if Mr.. Burrell's music was discussed before. Not so much. What little there is, is all about an alleged scheme by his wife to get some shopping money through a Gofundme campaign. Not sure of the outcome, and frankly darling... It's about the music, and when it comes to Jazz guitarists from yesteryear, it's just about the gold standard. 93 years old, played on something like 453,658 albums, but struggling to survive. "How Can a Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live?"

Next up: 'Jaco'. An old favorite picked up last week from Volume Music at Sawdust Ave, Woodlands TX for a mere 7 bucks. Wonder if I still like it as much as I did when I bought it way back then. Of course, in those days I had to work a few weeks to get enough money for a vinyl purchase, so there was no friggin' way you were not going to like it. Although some of those financial barriers have been removed, I'm still like a kid in a record store when roaming around. I'm so happy that vinyl is back, with a vengeance.



Agree with you that this is a stunningly good album.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 19 Sep 2024, 23:25

Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out.
Their best? It has to be right up there.
Unusual (for 1959 at least) rhythms in 9/8 and 5/4 all over the place, yet the album was a major mainstream hit record.
All Brubeck compositions, with the surprising exemption of, of all tunes, Take Five, which is actually written by Paul Desmond. Who knew? Not me. My brand new copy is of sky-blue vinyl, printed in Europe. Issued by "DOL", a trademark of a company that has a website named www.vinylogy.ru. But since it was printed in 2013 I guess I'm in the clear.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 20 Sep 2024, 19:58

mudshark wrote:Grant Green is revered by some on this board. I've listened to quite a bit of his stuff that was good/palatable, but more material that reeked of mediocrity. Each his own taste, so be it.


Agree each to their own but 'mediocrity"....?!

Try The Complete Quartets With Sonny Clark - a 1997 compilation album by jazz guitarist Grant Green, collecting together all the tracks from a series of albums he recorded with pianist Sonny Clark in 1961 and '62.

The original material was shelved until after Clark's death in 1963 and Grant's death in 1979, and was first issued only in Japan as the albums Nigeria, Oleo and Gooden's Corner. The collection also includes one additional tune, "Nancy (With the Laughing Face)", and alternative takes of "Airegin" and "Oleo", all recorded during the same sessions

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

Kenny G may never have happened.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 22 Sep 2024, 16:38

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

Kenny G may never have happened.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 23 Sep 2024, 15:03

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Recorded in 1954.

The quintet features horn section Hank Mobley and Kenny Dorham and rhythm section Doug Watkins and Art Blakey

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 23 Sep 2024, 18:59

It's been quite a few years since I listened to Trane's Giant Steps, but I did so once again this morning. What a fantastic album. Spiral, Naima, the title song of course, all absolute amazing compositions beautifully performed. For me "Love Supreme" is his masterpiece, but Giant Steps ranks right up there as 2nd best with Blue Trane, Ole and My Favourite Things. There are not many of his albums that I didn't like when I heard them, although I must say that I had some difficulty getting through Meditations.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 24 Sep 2024, 10:35

mudshark wrote:It's been quite a few years since I listened to Trane's Giant Steps, but I did so once again this morning. What a fantastic album.


Indeed it is and one of my favourites!

Coincidentally, I played another Trane gem last night too:

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John Coltrane – tenor saxophone
Lee Morgan – trumpet
Curtis Fuller – trombone
Kenny Drew – piano
Paul Chambers – bass
Philly Joe Jones – tubs


Incidentally Muddy, you must get hold of a copy of this if you haven't already done so:

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It also comes in 'bits' if you can't get the complete box.




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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

Kenny G may never have happened.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 25 Sep 2024, 20:21

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A drop of Horace this evening

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Robust stuff!





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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

Kenny G may never have happened.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 26 Sep 2024, 18:09

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A drop of Horace this evening

Played:

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Robust stuff!





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Of course Blue Mitchell who played on both these albums also performed on John Mayall’s Jazz Blues Fusion and Moving On

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 26 Sep 2024, 23:54

Another MSN clickbait article: "19 acclaimed albums nobody listens to". Usual suspects such as Trout Mask Replica, Loveless and Lou's MMM were mentioned. But one album caught my eye: The Epic by Kamasi Washington. I'd never heard of the man or his music, so I decided to Qobuz it in the car on the way home. Must have been the first 21st century Jazz album I've played. In fact, I think Wynton Marsalis' J-Mood is the 'newest' Jazz I have, and that album is probably 40 years old by now. I saw him play in Singapore in 1988 or so (hard to say: I know my wife was pregnant at the time, but she was pretty much in that condition from August '87 until March '92). His early albums showed so much potential and promise. Never fulfilled. It went all downhill for him after the aforementioned album. His "Standard Time" series is likable enough, but no more than that. He'd become the James Last of Jazz, and never recovered.

But I digress: Mr. Washington's album is a 3-hour/3 disc tour de force of poly-rhythmic, progressive Jazz featuring some amazingly skilled musicians, especially the drummer, who's Tony Williams on amphetamine. There are similarities to Trane's post Love Supreme stuff and also to Sun Ra's music. But then he has these almost classical string arrangements not quite intertwining with the cacophony of horns, which puts the whole thing off kilter and yet makes it quite interesting if not brilliant.

The man makes his money contributing his chops to the likes of Kendrick Lamar and Snoop Dog, but he uses the money he makes to produce his own stuff which is undoubtedly not selling as well as it should. A bit of a "Zappaesque" attitude, and indeed I can imagine that if Frank had still been alive in 2015, that he could have made a Jazz album in this mold. The second song on the album (I was only able to listen for about an hour), could be a Black Page 2.0. Dunno about the rest but will do soon: the vinyl is in the mail. I hope some of the many, many Jazz buffs reading this will give it a listen (if they haven't done so already) and give their opinion.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 27 Sep 2024, 09:14

mudshark wrote: Mr. Washington's album is a 3-hour/3 disc tour de force of poly-rhythmic, progressive Jazz featuring some amazingly skilled musicians, especially the drummer, who's Tony Williams on amphetamine. There are similarities to Trane's post Love Supreme stuff and also to Sun Ra's music. But then he has these almost classical string arrangements not quite intertwining with the cacophony of horns, which puts the whole thing off kilter and yet makes it quite interesting if not brilliant.

The man makes his money contributing his chops to the likes of Kendrick Lamar and Snoop Dog, but he uses the money he makes to produce his own stuff which is undoubtedly not selling as well as it should. A bit of a "Zappaesque" attitude, and indeed I can imagine that if Frank had still been alive in 2015, that he could have made a Jazz album in this mold. The second song on the album (I was only able to listen for about an hour), could be a Black Page 2.0. Dunno about the rest but will do soon: the vinyl is in the mail. I hope some of the many, many Jazz buffs reading this will give it a listen (if they haven't done so already) and give their opinion.


Thanks Muddy - I'll look into it

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

Kenny G may never have happened.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby frimley_greener » 27 Sep 2024, 09:45

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Still one of my favourites....
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 29 Sep 2024, 13:45

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Herbie Hancock - Gershwin's World. Snapped up in a charity shop yesterday for fifty pence. Really enjoying this. A real mixed bag of interpretations of Gershwin songs (some sung by some of the most influential songwriters of history - Stevie Wonder, Joni Mitchell), plus instrumental versions and music from Gershwin's 'world' - Ravel, Duke Ellington.

I was a bit suspicious, but the whole thing hangs together much better than it might have done. So far, one of my favourite Hancock recordings, in fact. Man knows what he is doing.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 29 Sep 2024, 14:00

LMG wrote:NP:

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Herbie Hancock - Gershwin's World. Snapped up in a charity shop yesterday for fifty pence. Really enjoying this. A real mixed bag of interpretations of Gershwin songs (some sung by some of the most influential songwriters of history - Stevie Wonder, Joni Mitchell), plus instrumental versions and music from Gershwin's 'world' - Ravel, Duke Ellington.

I was a bit suspicious, but the whole thing hangs together much better than it might have done. So far, one of my favourite Hancock recordings, in fact. Man knows what he is doing.


Interesting Chris - I looked it up

Herbie’s thirty-seventh album recorded/released in 1998

Certainly a who’s who of accompanying musicians including others Wayne Shorter, Chick Corea and Stanley Clarke

Alex Al– upright bass
Toby Appel – viola
Cyro Baptista – percussion
Kathleen Battle – soprano, vocals
Ronnie Bauch – violin
Martha Caplin – concert master, violin
Terri Lyne Carrington – tubs, production assistant
James Carter – soprano saxophone, tenor saxophone
Susannah Chapman – cello
Catherine Cho – violin
Sarah Clarke – principal viola
Stanley Clarke – bass
Ira Coleman – bass, production assistant
Chick Corea – piano
Charles Curtis – cello
Nicolas Danielson – violin
Marji Danilow – bass
Madou Dembelle – djembe
Matthew Dine – English horn
Massamba Diop – talking drum
Karen Dreyfus – viola
Jennifer Frautschi – violin
Kenny Garrett – alto saxophone
Marlon Graves – guitar, mixing, percussion
Michael Finn – principal bassoon
Brian Greene – oboe
Bireyma Guiye – percussion
Herbie Hancock – arranger, liner notes, organ, piano
Eddie Henderson – flugelhorn, trumpet
Cynde Iverson – bassoon
Gene Jackson – tubs
Joanna Jenner – violin
Renee Jolles – violin Eastman School of Music
Chris Komer – horn
Bakithi Kumalo – bass, guitar
Elizabeth Mann – flute
Cheik Mbaye – percussion
Melissa Meel – cello
Joni Mitchell – vocals
Katherine Murdock – viola
Charles Neidich – clarinet, E flat clarinet
Ahling Neu – viola
Donald Palma – principal bass
Ellen Payne – violin
Todd Phillips – violin
Nardo Poy – viola
William Purvis – principal horn
Richard Rood – violin
Eriko Sato – principal violin
Wayne Shorter – soprano saxophone, tenor saxophone
David Singer – clarinet
Mina Smith – cello
Clavin Wiersman – violin
Peter Winograd – violin
Stevie Wonder – arranger, harmonica, vocals
Asmira Woodward-Page – violin
Eric Wyrick – violin
Naoko Tanaka – violin

I’m not keen on big band/orchestral stuff and I don’t like vocals in jazz

My bad but I’m not sure it’ll not be my cup of Darjeeling but I will search it out on Qobuz and try a drop out

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Santa C » 29 Sep 2024, 21:04

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Two Thelonious Monk albums this evening:

Straight, No Chaser

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Misterio (live) - beautifully recorded - Crystal clear sound - unbelievable to think it was 1958

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Now back to Slow Horses on the telly

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LMG wrote:If more of the trickier/complex jazzers in the sixties had made records this lush and inviting, the more inventive side of jazz might have caught on.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby fange » 30 Sep 2024, 08:02

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Johnny Coles - Little Johnny C

Recorded in 1963, released 1964. A very fine record that swings like a barn door.

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