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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 17 Apr 2024, 16:15

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An old favourite

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Miles Davis – trumpet
Wayne Shorter – tenor saxophone
Herbie Hancock – piano
Ron Carter – bass
Tony Williams – tubs





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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 17 Apr 2024, 18:22

I’ve been playing a lot of Joe Henderson the last couple of weeks

I have the first half dozen and I’ve been thinking about which is my favourite - Joe as leader

Horses for courses I suppose, but I often gravitate to the lad’s debut

What about you - your top 2 or 3….?

it might help me make up my mind for when it’s next my selection for the JSL…!



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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 19 Apr 2024, 09:27

C wrote:I’ve been playing a lot of Joe Henderson the last couple of weeks

I have the first half dozen and I’ve been thinking about which is my favourite - Joe as leader

Horses for courses I suppose, but I often gravitate to the lad’s debut

What about you - your top 2 or 3….?

it might help me make up my mind for when it’s next my selection for the JSL…!



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Jazz cats…..?




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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 19 Apr 2024, 19:07

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I love this album




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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 20 Apr 2024, 09:31

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The album marks the first time the two saxophonists had entered a recording studio together, although they had appeared on stage together briefly that same year at the Newport Jazz Festival

It was recorded at RCA Victor Studio, New York City on July 15th and 18th 1963




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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 20 Apr 2024, 09:50

Great Sonny sides!

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Things Are Getting Better Cannonball Adderley with Milt Jackson.

Not sure how I acquired this, it is certainly underplayed . The liner notes speak of 'few more logical pairings' than the two featured artists.

Hmmm... Take half the Modern Jazz Quartet, add two musicians soon to record Kind of Blue, season liberally with Art Blakey, and serve hot?

Reminds me of that time my stoned friend tried to convince me that his pilchards and blueberry conserve concoction was the best thing to spread on a bagel.

Surprisingly, it is very good. The vibes and alto sax sound great together, and the Kelly/Heath/Blakey rhythm section provides solid support.

Do those assembled match or outshine their stellar achievements elsewhere?

Of course not.

Do they blend well enough into something new and innovative?

Not really, no.

But a nice, enjoyable listen just the same.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 20 Apr 2024, 11:03

LMG wrote:Great Sonny sides!

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Things Are Getting Better Cannonball Adderley with Milt Jackson.

Not sure how I acquired this, it is certainly underplayed . The liner notes speak of 'few more logical pairings' than the two featured artists.

Hmmm... Take half the Modern Jazz Quartet, add two musicians soon to record Kind of Blue, season liberally with Art Blakey, and serve hot?

Reminds me of that time my stoned friend tried to convince me that his pilchards and blueberry conserve concoction was the best thing to spread on a bagel.

Surprisingly, it is very good. The vibes and alto sax sound great together, and the Kelly/Heath/Blakey rhythm section provides solid support.

Do those assembled match or outshine their stellar achievements elsewhere?

Of course not.

Do they blend well enough into something new and innovative?

Not really, no.

But a nice, enjoyable listen just the same.


Milton was a fine vibes player but the inclusion of that instrument is sometimes hit-or-miss.

Wynton and Art keep things knocking along nicely though






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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Tom Waits For No One » 20 Apr 2024, 13:30

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Give a shit or be a shit.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 20 Apr 2024, 13:53

That's the MLK album right? It has the much loved (by C, at least) Joe Henderson.
I remember not caring for it too much. Maybe I should give it another shot.
He got funky after this (Fat Albert!).
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 20 Apr 2024, 15:00

mudshark wrote:That's the MLK album right?


Yes - he was assassinated the previous year I think



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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 21 Apr 2024, 11:19

Sunday Jazz

Why fix it if it ain't broke?

So. More Grant Green to start, from my 5 Original Albums box:

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I Want To Hold Your Hand.

An All Star band. Hank Mobley, Larry Young, Elvin Jones. No bass. Given the company assembled, slightly underwhelming?

Doing the chilling trick, however.

Next up:

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Art Farmer, Sing Me Softly Of The Blues

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 21 Apr 2024, 12:00

Currently listening to Monk: "The Classic Quartet". Recorded in a Tokyo studio in 1963. Fantastic sound quality. Remastered LP on Candid Records. I've listened to most of the songs on this album umpteen times, and I believe these renditions are among the very best. "Blue Monk" is one he's recorded several times and done so very well. But on this one the band is taking it to another level, mainly because of the improvisations by Charlie Rouse and the man himself. The version on "Epistrophy" is smooooth as silk. I think a 'must have' for all the Monklovers.

Over the past two months I've purchased 5 Grant Green albums. I'm quite underwhelmed overall, especially because he's been receiving so much high praise here. I hope the record store will take them back. I bet the guy was thinking "good riddance", when I took these second-hand suckers off his hands. It's OK, but certainly not great, and some of it (half of Feeling The Spirit, notably) way below par. He ain't no Wes Montgomery, for sure.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 21 Apr 2024, 12:07

mudshark wrote:
Over the past two months I've purchased 5 Grant Green albums. I'm quite underwhelmed overall.


Underwhelmed…?!

Underwhelmed…??!!




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Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 21 Apr 2024, 12:09

Less than overwhelmed = ....

I'd never even heard of the man until you mentioned him. And you made him out to be one of the Great Ones. So, I went in with great expectations, expecting some mind-blowing music. And that's just not what I got. Good, not great. So 'underwhelmed' compared to what I thought I was going to get.
To do you a favour a put on Feelin' The Spirit once again. With most of the tunes I get the feeling: "go away guitar, let Herbie do it". Hancock is exceptionally good on this album, in my opinion. He saves poor old Grant. He sure ain't no Lee Ritenour.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 21 Apr 2024, 12:46

Which albums have you got Erik?




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Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 21 Apr 2024, 13:03

Feelin' The Spirit
Born To Be Blue
I Want To Hold Your hand
Street Dreams
Grantstand

And Live at the Lighthouse, but that one is waiting for me in Tomball. Ordered it, will play it when I get back next week. Looking forward to going home.

Truth be told: he's very good on Go Down Moses, that's turning right now.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 21 Apr 2024, 13:07

But in the next one (Motherless Child) he's luggage. The way Herbie puts a bit of Cole Porter into his bit. Fantastic. And then that guitar disturbs it all :-).

Of course, I'm exaggerating; to me, it's just not nearly as good as you described it.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 21 Apr 2024, 13:12

mudshark wrote:Feelin' The Spirit
Born To Be Blue
I Want To Hold Your hand
Street Dreams
Grantstand

And Live at the Lighthouse, but that one is waiting for me in Tomball. Ordered it, will play it when I get back next week. Looking forward to going home.

Truth be told: he's very good on Go Down Moses, that's turning right now.


Hmm... I'm not sure you have the best ones.

Idle Moments is considered to be Green's finest

Grandstand and Green Street are corkers too

My recommendation would be The Complete Quartets with Sonny Clark. The original material was shelved until they both died and was first issued as the albums Nigeria, Oleo and Gooden's Corner

Try that, or Idle Moments, and then give up!

Your loss though




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Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 21 Apr 2024, 13:52

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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 22 Apr 2024, 19:05

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A drop of Lee Morgan this evening

Was Playing [1966]

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Lee Morgan - trumpet
Joe Henderson - tenor saxophone
McCoy Tyner - piano
Bob Cranshaw - bass
Billy Higgins - tubs




Now Playing [1957]

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Lee Morgan – trumpet
Curtis Fuller – trombone
George Coleman – tenor saxophone, alto saxophone
Ray Bryant – piano
Paul Chambers – bass
Art Taylor – tubs


Tremendous stuff




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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.


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