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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 23 Mar 2024, 22:56

LMG wrote:Nothing says 'Chill, Lad - it's the weekend' to me more than a Grant Green album.

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Feelin' The Spirit - A selection of gospel tunes adapted to the inimitable GG style (stands for Grant Green, not Gentle Giant, although the latter would prove interesting...)


I love a drop of Grant Green me





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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 24 Mar 2024, 10:40

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I just adore this album




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I am now playing it on Spotify.

Had no idea of its existence. Amazing how quality releases can pass one by.

Wish I had bought when released, as opposed to hunting for it now. However, the first two discs (nearly) are that Paris 1960 show you suggested Skipper.

So for a while I can make do with streaming and that double CD release.

Update: just ordered this, which complements the Paris set with more 1960 tour recordings.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/All-You-Last-T ... 529&sr=1-1

Fabulous music, so well recorded for the time.

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Last night I played two old Rollins’s favourites-

Tenor Madness
Saxophone Colossus


Robust stuff!




Indeed - a brace of wonderful albums I play often.

If only there were a Miles Bootleg Series of the American tour featuring Coltrane and Sonny on saxes!

But so far no tapes have emerged. Life is cruel.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 24 Mar 2024, 14:12

Indeed life is cruel



I’m playing Lee Morgan’s The Sidewinder as I type

Always enjoyable

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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 24 Mar 2024, 15:00

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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 24 Mar 2024, 15:21

LMG wrote:
C wrote:NP

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I just adore this album




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I am now playing it on Spotify.

Had no idea of its existence. Amazing how quality releases can pass one by.

Wish I had bought when released, as opposed to hunting for it now. However, the first two discs (nearly) are that Paris 1960 show you suggested Skipper.

So for a while I can make do with streaming and that double CD release.

Update: just ordered this, which complements the Paris set with more 1960 tour recordings.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/All-You-Last-T ... 529&sr=1-1

Fabulous music, so well recorded for the time.

C wrote:
Last night I played two old Rollins’s favourites-

Tenor Madness
Saxophone Colossus


Robust stuff!




Indeed - a brace of wonderful albums I play often.



Correct Chris

The full last tour is in bits elsewhere

The other ‘bit’ I have is some of the material from Konserthuset, Stockholm

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I am not sure what the overlap with all the bits are but eBay have copies of this for less than three quid - inc p&p....!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/383494418315

2 available / 27 sold





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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 24 Mar 2024, 15:39

I was also reading about promoter Norman Granz that introduces the band - he sounds like an amazing man

He was a champion of racial equality, insisting, for example, on integrating audiences at concerts he promoted.

Granz emerged into the public view when he organised desegregated jam sessions at the Trouville Club in Los Angeles, which he later expanded when he staged a memorable concert at the Philharmonic Auditorium in Los Angeles on Sunday, July 2, 1944, under the heading of "Jazz at the Philharmonic".

He saw to it that his musicians were well paid. In the segregated society of the 1940s, he insisted on equal pay and accommodation for white and black musicians. He refused to take his hugely popular concerts to places which were segregated, even if he had to cancel concerts, thereby sacrificing considerable sums of money.

Norman opposed racism and fought many battles for his artists, many of whom were black. In 1955, in Houston, Texas, he removed signs that previously designated "White" and "Negro" restrooms, outside the auditorium where two concerts were to be performed by Ella Fitzgerald and Dizzy Gillespie. Between the two shows, Fitzgerald and Gillespie and Illinois Jacquet were shooting small-stakes dice in the dressing room to kill time, when the local police barged in and arrested them. After some negotiations, the artists were allowed to perform the second show and later were formally released on $50 bail. Granz, incensed by the incident, insisted on successfully fighting the charges, which cost him over $2,000

Oscar Peterson recounted how Granz once insisted that white cabdrivers take his black artists as customers, while a policeman pointed a loaded pistol at his stomach. Granz also was among the first to pay white and black artists the same salary, and to give them equal treatment even in minor details, such as dressing rooms.

Granz also spearheaded the fight to desegregate the hotels and casinos in Las Vegas, arguing that it was unfair that black artists could perform on the stages, but could not stay or gamble at the hotels, or even enter through the front doors.

Granz was also interested in art, developing a friendship with Pablo Picasso, whom he met in 1968

Incredible



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Granz



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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 25 Mar 2024, 11:55

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The standard bebop instrumentation of saxophone, trumpet, piano, bass, and tubs recorded 1949/50 but released in 1952.

The final studio union of Parker and Gillespie, and the only one with Thelonious Monk at the piano and Buddy Rich on tubs.

Rich is often criticised for his performance on this album because some say he didn't 'get' bebop and that his 'big band style was off kilter'

Monk is brilliant.





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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 25 Mar 2024, 14:52

Quite amazing: I purchased Grant Green's Feeling the Spirit AND Sonny's Jazz Colossus yesterday. I like Green's album but it's far from his best. I think Herbie is the better performer on this one. Only played one side of Jazz Colossus. His version is Mackie Messer is one of the greatest I've ever heard (but doesn't come close to the original, of course). I mentioned that Bird & Diz album a few weeks ago. Mentioned that the only complaint I had was that it's very short.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 25 Mar 2024, 16:56

mudshark wrote:the only complaint I had was that it's very short.


That's what Mrs C says...







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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 26 Mar 2024, 19:20

These 1960 Miles/Coltrane live sets are some of the best jazz I have ever experienced.

This arrived:

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https://jazzhistoryonline.com/miles-dav ... 20Spillett.

It has sent me back to the Paris recordings we discussed earlier. This music is just so incredible and revealing. Both the culmination of Coltrane's time with Miles, and the germination of what was to come for both artists as they parted ways.

Who knows how long I would have remained ignorant of these gems had C not pointed them out? I shudder to think.

If I encounter better jazz this year I will be amazed (but happy).
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 26 Mar 2024, 19:40

LMG wrote:These 1960 Miles/Coltrane live sets are some of the best jazz I have ever experienced.

This arrived:

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https://jazzhistoryonline.com/miles-dav ... 20Spillett.

It has sent me back to the Paris recordings we discussed earlier. This music is just so incredible and revealing. Both the culmination of Coltrane's time with Miles, and the germination of what was to come for both artists as they parted ways.

Who knows how long I would have remained ignorant of these gems had C not pointed them out? I shudder to think.

If I encounter better jazz this year I will be amazed (but happy).


Stunning aren't they

A JSL.....?





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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 26 Mar 2024, 21:01

C wrote:
LMG wrote:These 1960 Miles/Coltrane live sets are some of the best jazz I have ever experienced.

This arrived:

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https://jazzhistoryonline.com/miles-dav ... 20Spillett.

It has sent me back to the Paris recordings we discussed earlier. This music is just so incredible and revealing. Both the culmination of Coltrane's time with Miles, and the germination of what was to come for both artists as they parted ways.

Who knows how long I would have remained ignorant of these gems had C not pointed them out? I shudder to think.

If I encounter better jazz this year I will be amazed (but happy).


Stunning aren't they

A JSL.....?





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One of the Paris sets, perhaps...

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby pcqgod » 29 Mar 2024, 15:56

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 30 Mar 2024, 10:00

C wrote:
LMG wrote:Nothing says 'Chill, Lad - it's the weekend' to me more than a Grant Green album.

NP

Feelin' The Spirit - A selection of gospel tunes adapted to the inimitable GG style (stands for Grant Green, not Gentle Giant, although the latter would prove interesting...)


I love a drop of Grant Green me





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Why fix something that works so well?

So I am luxuriating in that off-work, Bank Hols groove setting the day up with this, my favourite of the man's:

NP:

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Grant Green - Idle Moments

I play this and all troubles and stress just melt away into the ether, and I am at one with my fellow humans, I wish to all this wonderful feeling of joyful existence in our shared world.

In the ensuing fantasy realm I temporarily inhabit, Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu each separately tell their advisors 'Return to me in an hour with those campaign plans - I promised my old mate LMG I would first listen to this Grant Green disc he sent me - reckons it might change my way of seeing things, which I very much doubt...'
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 30 Mar 2024, 11:06

LMG wrote:
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Grant Green - Idle Moments

I play this and all troubles and stress just melt away into the ether, and I am at one with my fellow humans, I wish to all this wonderful feeling of joyful existence in our shared world.


Indeed

A tremendous album and a great little anecdote regarding the title track and its length!






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The album was also released in 1997 as part of The Complete Quartets with Sonny Clark






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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 30 Mar 2024, 13:23

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With McCoy Tyner credited as 'ETC' on the front cover due to contractual obligations

The lad's debut




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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 30 Mar 2024, 13:47

"Make a Jazz Noise Here", is what's turning on my table just now.
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 30 Mar 2024, 14:51

mudshark wrote:"Make a Jazz Noise Here", is what's turning on my table just now.


Good old Frank




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NMB wrote:I much prefer tuneless twaddle to tuneful twaddle.

Jazz generally does have a tune but they don’t necessarily play it to you.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Good Night Austin, Texas » 30 Mar 2024, 15:14

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Six String » 30 Mar 2024, 16:38

Good Night Austin, Texas wrote:NP

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Now that is truly a perfect album, every song, every note. I play it often, most recently a few days ago.
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