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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Six String » 22 Dec 2024, 19:03

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Six String wrote:Earlier I was spinning a live album of Christmas music by Carla Bley recorded in the early 00’s in Berlin. Later it will be Yuletide Struttin’ on the Blue Note label.





Carla's Christmas Carols I assume. Great album, a couple of Christmas' ago was playing it daily - thinking now about five Christmas' ago - the last before I retired. Playing it either before or after school, sometimes both. I have a tendency to latch onto a Christmas CD each year - this year it's The Naxos Book of Carols. The only other jazz Christmas album that's really hooked me is Joe Thompson's Christmas Decorations. A fairly light album, piano, bass and drum workings of Carols.

Duke Ellington's take on Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker Suite will undoubtedly be played in the next week, but I don't class that as strictly a Christmas album.

My favorite is Bobby Timmons’ Holiday Soul on Prestige. It swings so hard I sometimes forget I’m playing a Christmas album.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Spock! » 22 Dec 2024, 21:46

Six String wrote:
Spock! wrote:
Six String wrote:Earlier I was spinning a live album of Christmas music by Carla Bley recorded in the early 00’s in Berlin. Later it will be Yuletide Struttin’ on the Blue Note label.





Carla's Christmas Carols I assume. Great album, a couple of Christmas' ago was playing it daily - thinking now about five Christmas' ago - the last before I retired. Playing it either before or after school, sometimes both. I have a tendency to latch onto a Christmas CD each year - this year it's The Naxos Book of Carols. The only other jazz Christmas album that's really hooked me is Joe Thompson's Christmas Decorations. A fairly light album, piano, bass and drum workings of Carols.

Duke Ellington's take on Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker Suite will undoubtedly be played in the next week, but I don't class that as strictly a Christmas album.

My favorite is Bobby Timmons’ Holiday Soul on Prestige. It swings so hard I sometimes forget I’m playing a Christmas album.






Didn't know of the Timmons' album, am playing it now. Very enjoyable, thanks.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 24 Dec 2024, 12:22

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Recorded: 1958
Released: 1980


Look at that line-up!

The lad made four albums in his short lifetime - only one was released at the time - three were shelved

Whatever was Alfred Lion thinking...?

Brooks did not record after 1961. Plagued by heroin dependency, and gradually deteriorating health, he died of liver failure at the age 42 in 1974 after over a decade in obscurity







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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Six String » 28 Dec 2024, 23:04

I’ve been listening to some post Blue Note Freddie Hubbard today.
The Hub Of Hubbard on MPS is really well done with fiery exchanges between Hubbard and Eddie Daniels.

High Blues Pressure on Atlantic with a blend of four sessions with slightly different groups. Some tracks have more than five musicians so beware C!
Side one is more boogaloo a la Sidewinder while side two is more straight ahead, less “groove” oriented if you get my drift.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Nervous Ned » 29 Dec 2024, 08:09

The only post Blue Note Hubbard I know are 'Red Clay and 'Straight Life'. Haven't played them in ages but I remember them being quite good.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 29 Dec 2024, 10:42

On my Christmas breaks I always go back to the heavy hitters in rock, jazz, classical and bliss out on the masters. Last few days I have been topping up my Miles Davis collection from shops and on-line purchases.

Just played:

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E.S.P.

I am acquiring all the remastered Miles Second Great Quintet CDs, going cheap now - £4-£6. For decades you could not get them anywhere on CD and vinyl was impossible to find outside Japanese editions - it was the Columbia Years boxed set 4 CD compilation that was the only source for this essential group of musicians' sixties recordings.

Amazing to read the liner notes and learnt that this first studio outing from the outfit fared poorly commercially and critically on its 1965 release. One reason was that at the same time Columbia released two live albums of the George Coleman live show at Lincoln Centre in 1964, My Funny Valentine and Four and More, and Miles's former label Prestige put out three LPs of their own sessions with Coltrane and the First Great Quintet. Six LPs in 17 months, confusing jazz fans no end.

Hence for decades after it came out, E.S.P was either underappreciated and relatively ignored or out of print! A CD available worldwide was issued in 1991 and this remaster in 1998.

Since then it has rightly become one of the core albums in his discography for fans.

Moving on to:

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Bitches Brew LIve

July 1969 Newport Jazz Festival and August 1970 Isle of Wight shows. Corea, Jarrett (1970 only), Dave Holland, DeJohnette. Bliss. Amazing quality recordings.

I could listen to electric period recordings endlessly. Such groove, what interplay.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Six String » 29 Dec 2024, 20:01

Nervous Ned wrote:The only post Blue Note Hubbard I know are 'Red Clay and 'Straight Life'. Haven't played them in ages but I remember them being quite good.

Agreed. A couple on Impulse are very good too.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 30 Dec 2024, 06:47

Six String wrote:
Nervous Ned wrote:The only post Blue Note Hubbard I know are 'Red Clay and 'Straight Life'. Haven't played them in ages but I remember them being quite good.

Agreed. A couple on Impulse are very good too.


The Blue Note albums are where it’s at man



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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Six String » 05 Jan 2025, 04:41

I’ve been listening to Don Friedman (pianist) today but now spinning an album by James Clay (Double Dose Of Soul) that features Nat Adderley, Victor Feldman and the Gene Harris Trio.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby LMG » 05 Jan 2025, 11:47

Continuing my Miles Davis upgrade. I got Kind of Blue, Sketches of Spain remasters for £2-3, these are very popular albums so CDs are regularly available. The 1969-75 live albums much less so.

During my travels I have found and am enjoying this grey market release, although let's be honest this is pretty much a bootleg that has found its way into some legit outlets:

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Miles Davis The Archives

A bundling together of three 'live broadcast' sets from, respectively 1969, 1975, and 1990, these CDs are on different labels Go Faster, Iconography, and Leftfield Media. There is no label information on the box in which they have been bundled under the Archives title.

Each of these well-recorded discs could be added to remasters of specific live releases from the MIles catalogue, as I will detail. I suspect only one is taken from an actual broadcast, the other two were 'liberated' tapes made in the process of creating the relevant album.

First up is a live recording from Fillmore East in April 1970, recorded apparently the night before the Black Beauty album was recorded, with Corea, DeJohnette, Steve Grossman, and Airto on percussion.

I love the Black Beauty album, so to have this extra material is wonderful - similar setlist but not exact, and the performances are markedly different. Very useful for figuring out what was pre-determined for each title, and how much was improvised (a good deal, it turns out).

Next up is the jem of the package for me. Tokyo 1973 alleges to be from Miles's summer tour of Japan of that year, but in fact it is a recording of the same early 1975 tour that was the source of Agharta and Pangaea.

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Amazing recordings - if only a boxed set of remasters of those two albums with this show could find its way onto the shelves, or more 1975 live recordings come out as part of the Miles Official Bootleg series.

I know Agharta well - it was my first MIles LP, bought in 1979. I listened to this with a friend who also knows the album, we agreed there are more horns in the mix and what seems to be more energy, supporting the assertion made that as the tour progressed, Miles's dependence on medication to deal with the pain he was suffering from joints and stomach ulcers affected the performances that were issued.

There remains mystery over the actual date of the recording. Other editions of the Tokyo show do not have the same titles, and the date stated on the CD is 1973. But is seems obvious this is the same band as the 1975 recorded albums.

A fine addition to those albums.

The final CD is the lesser of the set, but still enjoyable. Radio announcer interventions indicate it was genuinely taped off the radio, or sourced from an archive of the broadcast.

This is the live show from Miles's appearance at the 1990 Chicago Jazz Festival. The set is one show, and supplements the official compilation live CD Live Around The World, which has selections from 1988-91.

This performance mirrors much of that album, but has long versions of Star People and The Senate, Me And You which the official release lacks.

This was the period in which I had several chances to see Miles play and declined. I wondered at the time if I would later regret this. Not really - in a way I wish I had gone just to be in the presence of the legend.

But while this recording is pleasant enough, I will probably play it and its official counterpart almost never. Simply because there is now a wealth of more rewarding recordings out there, including now the other two discs in this set.

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 05 Jan 2025, 16:59

LMG wrote:Continuing my Miles Davis upgrade. I got Kind of Blue, Sketches of Spain remasters for £2-3, these are very popular albums so CDs are regularly available. The 1969-75 live albums much less so.

During my travels I have found and am enjoying this grey market release, although let's be honest this is pretty much a bootleg that has found its way into some legit outlets:

Image

Miles Davis The Archives

A bundling together of three 'live broadcast' sets from, respectively 1969, 1975, and 1990, these CDs are on different labels Go Faster, Iconography, and Leftfield Media. There is no label information on the box in which they have been bundled under the Archives title.

Each of these well-recorded discs could be added to remasters of specific live releases from the MIles catalogue, as I will detail. I suspect only one is taken from an actual broadcast, the other two were 'liberated' tapes made in the process of creating the relevant album.

First up is a live recording from Fillmore East in April 1970, recorded apparently the night before the Black Beauty album was recorded, with Corea, DeJohnette, Steve Grossman, and Airto on percussion.

I love the Black Beauty album, so to have this extra material is wonderful - similar setlist but not exact, and the performances are markedly different. Very useful for figuring out what was pre-determined for each title, and how much was improvised (a good deal, it turns out).

Next up is the jem of the package for me. Tokyo 1973 alleges to be from Miles's summer tour of Japan of that year, but in fact it is a recording of the same early 1975 tour that was the source of Agharta and Pangaea.

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Amazing recordings - if only a boxed set of remasters of those two albums with this show could find its way onto the shelves, or more 1975 live recordings come out as part of the Miles Official Bootleg series.

I know Agharta well - it was my first MIles LP, bought in 1979. I listened to this with a friend who also knows the album, we agreed there are more horns in the mix and what seems to be more energy, supporting the assertion made that as the tour progressed, Miles's dependence on medication to deal with the pain he was suffering from joints and stomach ulcers affected the performances that were issued.

There remains mystery over the actual date of the recording. Other editions of the Tokyo show do not have the same titles, and the date stated on the CD is 1973. But is seems obvious this is the same band as the 1975 recorded albums.

A fine addition to those albums.

The final CD is the lesser of the set, but still enjoyable. Radio announcer interventions indicate it was genuinely taped off the radio, or sourced from an archive of the broadcast.

This is the live show from Miles's appearance at the 1990 Chicago Jazz Festival. The set is one show, and supplements the official compilation live CD Live Around The World, which has selections from 1988-91.

This performance mirrors much of that album, but has long versions of Star People and The Senate, Me And You which the official release lacks.

This was the period in which I had several chances to see Miles play and declined. I wondered at the time if I would later regret this. Not really - in a way I wish I had gone just to be in the presence of the legend.

But while this recording is pleasant enough, I will probably play it and its official counterpart almost never. Simply because there is now a wealth of more rewarding recordings out there, including now the other two discs in this set.


Nice post Chris

Yes, nice post






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The only one (of four) albums released at the time

What were was Alfred Lion thinking...?

Robust stuff (but not his best in my option)



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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Six String » 06 Jan 2025, 21:04

Earlier I listened to the complete Village Vanguard recordings of the Bill Evans Trio from 1961. Presently listening to Blue Mitchell’s Bring It Home To Me.
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 09 Jan 2025, 11:17

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Look at that line up?

An absolute corker!




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Re: Jazz Club

Postby Six String » 10 Jan 2025, 17:41

NP Dexter Gordon - Gettin’ Around (Blue Note) Tone Poet reissued vinyl

Last night we went out and heard some jazz at a local wine bar. The band included Barry Finnerty who played guitar with the Brecker Brothers, Crusaders, Miles (The Man With The Horn), Masabami Kikuchi and many others. It was a quartet (piano, bass, drums and guitar).
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Re: Jazz Club

Postby robertff » 10 Jan 2025, 19:12

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 10 Jan 2025, 19:17

Six String wrote:NP Dexter Gordon - Gettin’ Around (Blue Note) Tone Poet reissued vinyl

Last night we went out and heard some jazz at a local wine bar. The band included Barry Finnerty who played guitar with the Brecker Brothers, Crusaders, Miles (The Man With The Horn), Masabami Kikuchi and many others. It was a quartet (piano, bass, drums and guitar).


A tremendous album Les. I love Dexter!

And I love a drop of vibes courtesy of Bobby




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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 10 Jan 2025, 19:22

robertff wrote:WP


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I struggle with this one Rob

The musical cues for the 1958 Louis Malle film Ascenseur pour l'échafaud - like most soundtracks it's bitty and most of the tracks no more than two and a half minutes

Dare I say, to my ears, it doesn't flow



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Re: Jazz Club

Postby robertff » 10 Jan 2025, 19:39

Compie wrote:
robertff wrote:WP


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I struggle with this one Rob

The musical cues for the 1958 Louis Malle film Ascenseur pour l'échafaud - like most soundtracks it's bitty and most of the tracks no more than two and a half minutes

Dare I say, to my ears, it doesn't flow


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It’s the only record I have ever bought having heard it playing on a record shop’s music system having never heard it before.

I was in Fopp Records in London and this was playing and its haunting detached quality immediately struck a chord. I asked the assistant what was playing and I went home, investigated it further and then bought it. Think it is fabulous.


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Re: Jazz Club

Postby mudshark » 10 Jan 2025, 20:35

It IS fabulous.
"C" stands for cloth ears, this instance.
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over

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Re: Jazz Club

Postby C » 10 Jan 2025, 20:48

mudshark wrote:It IS fabulous.
"C" stands for cloth ears, this instance.


I think most of Miles’ work is ‘fabulous’ but this album just doesn’t seem to gel to my old ears

The lad starts to get going and then the track comes to a short end

Then often the next track sets a different mood

A bit like a compilation



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