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I'm giving Costello another chance

Postby Walk In My Shadow » 28 Oct 2021, 19:57

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Re: I'm giving Costello another chance

Postby Matt Wilson » 28 Oct 2021, 19:57

Good man. Make sure it's from '77 - '82 though.
it's weird how carlsson has managed to get wilson over a barrel and then persuade him to let the rest of the PROG goons perform anal chugs on him in said position.

my point is that wilson has sold his arse cheaply. it's embarrassing to read.

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Postby pcqgod » 28 Oct 2021, 20:10

or "King of America"
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Postby GoogaMooga » 28 Oct 2021, 20:36

Not sure what his best period is, but I like the song "Accidents Will Happen". A lot.
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Postby John_K » 28 Oct 2021, 21:31

or 'Painted from Memory'...

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Postby Hightea » 28 Oct 2021, 21:35

Matt Wilson wrote:Good man. Make sure it's from '77 - '82 though.

yeah he lost me after that too.

Almost went to see him the other night he is touring with the Imposters .

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Postby The Fish » 29 Oct 2021, 05:25

77-82 may represent some of his best work. although the debut always seems to me like juvenilia compared to what followed and This Years model was a quantum leap. Imperial Bedroom was a high watermark, but I don't subscribe to the view that nothing since comes close. I'd agree woth the suggestions above and add Brutal Youth and I've always thought of National Ransom as a bit of a hidden gem.
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Postby Neige » 29 Oct 2021, 07:15

The Fish wrote:77-82 may represent some of his best work. although the debut always seems to me like juvenilia compared to what followed and This Years model was a quantum leap. Imperial Bedroom was a high watermark, but I don't subscribe to the view that nothing since comes close.



This.

The 77-82 faction can do one.

He's released at least 50 great songs since (and I consider Look Now from 2018 a masterpiece!).

Not that the new one will change Yves' mind, of course! :lol:
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Postby Walk In My Shadow » 29 Oct 2021, 10:19

Thanks for the suggestions.

His early period is of course the one I know best as I had those albums.

What if I started with some compilations (he has enough) that have some later songs as well?
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Postby Neige » 29 Oct 2021, 13:52

Walk In My Shadow wrote:What if I started with some compilations (he has enough) that have some later songs as well?


This is all killer, IMO, compiled by EC himself as a companion piece to his memoir.

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Postby Hightea » 29 Oct 2021, 15:47

thanks I might have to dig back into Elvis. I've tried to listen to a few tunes since his early days and haven't been impressed but know he has done a lot and I might just not heard the good stuff.

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Postby Walk In My Shadow » 29 Oct 2021, 16:04

Neige wrote:
Walk In My Shadow wrote:What if I started with some compilations (he has enough) that have some later songs as well?


This is all killer, IMO, compiled by EC himself as a companion piece to his memoir.

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Right. Here we go then.
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Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 10 Nov 2021, 22:14

Walk In My Shadow wrote:
Neige wrote:
Walk In My Shadow wrote:What if I started with some compilations (he has enough) that have some later songs as well?


This is all killer, IMO, compiled by EC himself as a companion piece to his memoir.

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Right. Here we go then.


I'm taking it this didn't go well :roll:
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Postby mudshark » 10 Nov 2021, 22:39

I still adore My Aim Is True. That's the perfect album.
My 2nd favorite is Almost Blue.
Then there's a whole heap of albums with some corkers and an almost equal amount of rubbish.
Really like his live rendition of Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. It was on some sort of bootleg which I misplaced, and miss.
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Postby Neige » 12 Nov 2021, 06:59

50 Shades Of Blue wrote:
Walk In My Shadow wrote:
Neige wrote:
This is all killer, IMO, compiled by EC himself as a companion piece to his memoir.

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Right. Here we go then.


I'm taking it this didn't go well :roll:




I didn't hold my breath, to be honest, I think that Yves' dislike is too deeply anchored...

Still, a final verdict, however scathing, would be nice. :P
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Postby Walk In My Shadow » 12 Nov 2021, 14:44

Neige wrote:
50 Shades Of Blue wrote:
Walk In My Shadow wrote:


Right. Here we go then.


I'm taking it this didn't go well :roll:




I didn't hold my breath, to be honest, I think that Yves' dislike is too deeply anchored...

Still, a final verdict, however scathing, would be nice. :P




Oh, I did listen alright. And I didn't dislike it at all.

I think he's a great songwriter, it's his voice that grates.

I said this before but I like his early albums (up to 6 or 7). What bothers me most is the way he attaches himself onto other artists (Bacharach, Macca, Von Otter) in an attempt to gain credibility (the way I see it). Especially when he doesn't need to. He can make it on his own.
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Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 12 Nov 2021, 14:54

Walk In My Shadow wrote:
Neige wrote:
50 Shades Of Blue wrote:
I'm taking it this didn't go well :roll:




I didn't hold my breath, to be honest, I think that Yves' dislike is too deeply anchored...

Still, a final verdict, however scathing, would be nice. :P




Oh, I did listen alright. And I didn't dislike it at all.

I think he's a great songwriter, it's his voice that grates.

I said this before but I like his early albums (up to 6 or 7). What bothers me most is the way he attaches himself onto other artists (Bacharach, Macca, Von Otter) in an attempt to gain credibility (the way I see it). Especially when he doesn't need to. He can make it on his own.


Well done Yves.
If you don't like the voice it's not going to be for you.
FWIW of his collaboration albums the ones with Bacharach and Toussaint are my favourites.
The McCartney one is okay.
The Van Otter was purchased, listened to once and filed. Pointless effort.
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Postby Neige » 12 Nov 2021, 18:28

Walk In My Shadow wrote:
Oh, I did listen alright. And I didn't dislike it at all.

I think he's a great songwriter, it's his voice that grates.

I said this before but I like his early albums (up to 6 or 7). What bothers me most is the way he attaches himself onto other artists (Bacharach, Macca, Von Otter) in an attempt to gain credibility (the way I see it). Especially when he doesn't need to. He can make it on his own.


Oh, he certainly can ... but that shouldn't keep him from collaborating. I mostly like it when he works with other people. It's like two universes colliding and the chemistry works more often than not. I don't see it as a credibility thing, he doesn't need that...

But stuff like North and Il Sogno, that's what I find embarrassingly pretentious.
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Postby slightbreeze » 12 Nov 2021, 20:57

I own all of his output up to Spike. Yes, Spike ...not a hugely loved album by his fans, but .....I think there are some cracking songs on the album. My biggest gripe with him is that, although he can be a wonderful lyricist, it is often to the detriment of a memorable melody....and he works better with the Attractions.

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Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 12 Nov 2021, 23:13

slightbreeze wrote:I own all of his output up to Spike. Yes, Spike ...not a hugely loved album by his fans, but .....I think there are some cracking songs on the album. My biggest gripe with him is that, although he can be a wonderful lyricist, it is often to the detriment of a memorable melody....and he works better with the Attractions.


Snap, I bought all of his albums as they came out after my sisters boyfriend let me hear the copy of new release "This Years Model" he had just bought. 17 year old me was blown away. Up until then I just thought he was another desperate guy trying to get attention with a silly name. I was hooked and saw him play a lots of times after that and bought all the albums as they came out, up to and including "Spike".
There had been a few clunkers after the high mark of "Imperial Bedroom" and my purchase on release of EC albums stopped at "Spike".
Predictably I have purchased 7 further EC albums plus the above compilation over the years but there seems to have been hunners of long play EC releases in that time. Regrettably I haven't seen him play since 1994 because he charges daft money for the privilege.
However, I heartily recommend his autobiography in audio form which he took the time to read himself. It is truly comprehensive in telling the story of his life and career and his obsession and love of music and musicians is obvious throughout. I listened to it over many many pleasant dog walks up Arthurs Seat (Holyrood Park,Edinburgh) last summer.
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