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Re: The Prog Premier League - create

Postby robertff » 09 Oct 2021, 16:56

The Slider wrote:I would vote but who is drawing the line at eligibility?

One, Two and Three are Yes, Genesis and Crimso - obviously. In every list but those of a madman (I will accept them in any order - that is a matter for personal choice) but after that it gets complicated. Tull were prog for precisely two and a half albums...The Floyd never but they sort of verged on it...
They would be my choices for the final two places were they eligible..
But they are not really Prog so they shouldn't be. Same with Rush.
Frankly I don't really care for any of the other genuine prog bands that much.
I probably like Camel and Caravan more than I like VDGG and Gentle Giant but they are all rubbish really.

So who is allowed?




Vote for the acts you consider in order of importance and influence to the world of prog and not just your personal favourites. In any books or lists on prog both Floyd and Tull would feature, so if you think they fit the bill vote for them.


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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Hightea » 09 Oct 2021, 18:04

resource if we take this into the 20!

take out genre you don't consider prog
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby mudshark » 09 Oct 2021, 22:00

On what Hightea said about the Floyd: It ain't easy to box it up. Is Dark Side a prog album? Maybe. If not, what is it? Matt Wilson (I think) feels that Zappa is definitely prog (or some of it) but I haven't consciously heard any PF music that sounds remotely like FZ. So that's an endless debate. What is not is Hightea's opinion on Instellar Overdrive. That's certainly not prog. Neither is Hawkwind, a band that arguably wouldn't have existed without Instellar Overdrive. Drug-fueled Space Rock at its bestest.
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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby John_K » 09 Oct 2021, 22:10

Hightea wrote:resource if we take this into the 20!

take out genre you don't consider prog
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?salbumtypes=1



Looking at that Top 100 when I just click on the link above, you people have cost me a lot of money, but the enjoyment provided has been immense..!

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 10 Oct 2021, 10:25

Time's running out to vote. Don't forget to PM me - see above, Page 6 where it says REMINDER.




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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Hightea » 10 Oct 2021, 11:45

mudshark wrote:On what Hightea said about the Floyd: It ain't easy to box it up. Is Dark Side a prog album? Maybe. If not, what is it? Matt Wilson (I think) feels that Zappa is definitely prog (or some of it) but I haven't consciously heard any PF music that sounds remotely like FZ. So that's an endless debate. What is not is Hightea's opinion on Instellar Overdrive. That's certainly not prog. Neither is Hawkwind, a band that arguably wouldn't have existed without Instellar Overdrive. Drug-fueled Space Rock at its bestest.

Wish you were here , animals and dark side of the moon are all considered prog rock albums. You can argue others in their catalog too.

Several Hawkwind albums are prog too. Read a little about it
http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=15
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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby The Slider » 10 Oct 2021, 11:49

I don't consider anything by Hawkwind to be prog
There are proggy elements to the Floyd in the 70s - certainly not on Piper - but meh
Influence-wise Pink Floyd are streets ahead of all the competition here but I'm not convinced they belong in the race
So I am abstaining
and meanwhile I'm still thinking

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby C » 10 Oct 2021, 11:51

The Slider wrote:
So I am abstaining


Thank fucque for that




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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby The Slider » 10 Oct 2021, 11:53

C wrote:
The Slider wrote:
So I am abstaining


Thank fucque for that




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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby C » 10 Oct 2021, 12:45

The Slider wrote:
C wrote:
The Slider wrote:
So I am abstaining


Thank fucque for that




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I was going to vote for Refugee


Good call




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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 11 Oct 2021, 08:39

Another vote in thanks John aka Josh.


Anymore to come in, time is running out, don't forget to PM me.



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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Rorschach » 11 Oct 2021, 14:59

Are Curved Air prog?
Bugger off.

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 11 Oct 2021, 16:39

The Prog Premier League - The Top 5, in order, as voted by BCB

So here it is the top 5:


1. Yes 40 points
2. Genesis 35 points
3. King Crimson 28 points
4. Pink Floyd 25 points
5. Jethro Tull 17 points


11 members voted, 5 points given to first place descending by one point for each subsequent placing. A fairly conclusive top 5.


Others voted for were in order of points acquired:

VDGG (7)
Traffic (3)
Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson (2)
Renaissance (2)
Kraftwerk (2)
Gentle Giant (1)
Greenslade (1)
Rush (1)
Caravan (1)


So there we have it a top 5, shall we do the next 5? If so, don't PM me anything yet.


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Re: The Prog Premier League - Results - The Top 5

Postby Neil Jung » 11 Oct 2021, 17:50

Traffic? Kraftwerk? Really?

Wouldn’t the next 5 be the same as your runners up above unless different people vote?
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Re: The Prog Premier League - Results - The Top 5

Postby OUTPLAY » 11 Oct 2021, 19:10

Who voted for Kraftwerk?
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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Purgatory Brite » 11 Oct 2021, 19:10

Rorschach wrote:Are Curved Air prog?


A band with a violin player who plays solos? Of course they are! ;)

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Results - The Top 5

Postby robertff » 11 Oct 2021, 19:11

Neil Jung wrote:Traffic? Kraftwerk? Really?

Wouldn’t the next 5 be the same as your runners up above unless different people vote?




Perhaps, perhaps not my friend, people change their mind in my experience. Besides you'd need a vote to get the placings correct, if indeed the runners-up constituted the next five placings.



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Re: The Prog Premier League - Results - The Top 5

Postby Hightea » 11 Oct 2021, 20:02

Neil Jung wrote:Traffic? Kraftwerk? Really?

Wouldn’t the next 5 be the same as your runners up above unless different people vote?


nothing wrong with either. Traffic are mostly consider proto prog and Kraftwerk are Progressive Electronic.
I didn't vote for either but Kraftwerk make my top 15 or 20

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Results - The Top 5

Postby Matt Wilson » 11 Oct 2021, 20:03

Also, remember not to vote for bands who are already in the top five.

Should go without saying, but still...

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Results - The Top 5

Postby robertff » 11 Oct 2021, 22:25

Matt Wilson wrote:Also, remember not to vote for bands who are already in the top five.

Should go without saying, but still...




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