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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Hightea » 08 Oct 2021, 03:22

robertff wrote:
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Matt Wilson wrote:Top Five

1 Yes
2 Genesis
3 Crimson
4 Floyd
5 Tull


That's not bad Matt but GG need to be in there too.

They are certainly more 'prog' than Tull


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But Tull are widely perceived as being prog, look at any list of prog bands or books about prog and they are high up in the reckoning C, higher up than GG in many cases and far more popular.



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GG? I would say as far as influence in prog goes its not GG or Tull its ELP. Emerson vs Wakeman was really a thing.

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby trans-chigley express » 08 Oct 2021, 05:38

I'm not sure that ELP were that influential, they were just successful.

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Hugh » 08 Oct 2021, 08:05

trans-chigley express wrote:I'm not sure that ELP were that influential, they were just successful.



They influenced a lot of punk bands to go and do something different.

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby C » 08 Oct 2021, 09:07

Hugh wrote:
trans-chigley express wrote:I'm not sure that ELP were that influential, they were just successful.



They influenced a lot of punk bands to go and do something different.


:lol:




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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 08 Oct 2021, 09:55

Only 4 lists in so far, C, Matt, slightbreeze and John K.


So send me a PM with your top 5 prog acts in order of importance, no half baked orders, but ordered 1-5. Consider the acts in order of importance and influence to the world of prog and not just your personal favourites, otherwise this will become a pretty useless exercise.




Post your top 5 here as well but I shall only tally the ones that come to me by PM. You've got until Monday 10th October, no later than 1:00 p.m. GMT.




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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby trans-chigley express » 08 Oct 2021, 10:33

Hugh wrote:
trans-chigley express wrote:I'm not sure that ELP were that influential, they were just successful.



They influenced a lot of punk bands to go and do something different.

Good point, well made :lol:

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Matt Wilson » 08 Oct 2021, 14:25

Love ELP, but as I mentioned earlier on this thread - only a few peak years ('70 - '73 or 4 depending on your views on the live album). Compare them to Gentle Giant, say - who never released a marginal LP from '70 - '76, but probably have no absolute classics either. When deciding on your top five, this is where subjectivity comes into play. ELP had hits and GG had none, so that factors in.

ELP would probably by my 6th choice, but I'd have to ponder it.

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 08 Oct 2021, 15:47

Two more votes in, thanks Neil Yung and trans-chigley...... .


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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby C » 08 Oct 2021, 15:49

robertff wrote:Two more votes in, thanks Neil Yung and trans-chigley...... .


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Good lads

I understand a Steven Wilson inclusion warrants immediate disqualification .....




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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 08 Oct 2021, 16:16

C wrote:
robertff wrote:Two more votes in, thanks Neil Yung and trans-chigley...... .


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Good lads

I understand a Steven Wilson inclusion warrants immediate disqualification .....

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Hightea » 09 Oct 2021, 05:25

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They can't possibly be. I quite like them.

Ugh I forgot them

My friend said that after their show in Brooklyn, we were in VIP, my other friend said well go ask his manager (could have been assistant) he is right there. After an intro, I was able to ask if Sigur Ros had prog elements. At that point I turn around and Jonsi is standing behind me. He smiled sort of bowed and walked away. :lol:

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Hightea » 09 Oct 2021, 05:55

Okay votes in 5 is not Tull :lol:

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Postby Purgatory Brite » 09 Oct 2021, 10:02

Based on "importance and influence to the world of prog" I would say

1. King Crimson
2. Yes
3. Genesis
4. Van Der Graaf Generator
5. Rush
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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 09 Oct 2021, 10:04

Another vote in - Hightea



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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 09 Oct 2021, 10:11

REMINDER


If you wish to vote for the Prog Premier League send me a PM with your top 5 prog acts in order of importance, no half baked orders, but ordered 1-5. Consider the acts in order of importance and influence to the world of prog and not just your personal favourites, otherwise this will become a pretty useless exercise.




You can post your top 5 here as well but I shall only tally the ones that come to me by PM. You've got until Monday 10th October, no later than 1:00 p.m. GMT.



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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 09 Oct 2021, 12:50

Vote in from Walk In My Shadow.


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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby The Slider » 09 Oct 2021, 14:47

I would vote but who is drawing the line at eligibility?

One, Two and Three are Yes, Genesis and Crimso - obviously. In every list but those of a madman (I will accept them in any order - that is a matter for personal choice) but after that it gets complicated. Tull were prog for precisely two and a half albums...The Floyd never but they sort of verged on it...
They would be my choices for the final two places were they eligible..
But they are not really Prog so they shouldn't be. Same with Rush.
Frankly I don't really care for any of the other genuine prog bands that much.
I probably like Camel and Caravan more than I like VDGG and Gentle Giant but they are all rubbish really.

So who is allowed?
and meanwhile I'm still thinking

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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby Hightea » 09 Oct 2021, 15:25

The Slider wrote:I would vote but who is drawing the line at eligibility?

One, Two and Three are Yes, Genesis and Crimso - obviously. In every list but those of a madman (I will accept them in any order - that is a matter for personal choice) but after that it gets complicated. Tull were prog for precisely two and a half albums...The Floyd never but they sort of verged on it...
They would be my choices for the final two places were they eligible..
But they are not really Prog so they shouldn't be. Same with Rush.
Frankly I don't really care for any of the other genuine prog bands that much.
I probably like Camel and Caravan more than I like VDGG and Gentle Giant but they are all rubbish really.

So who is allowed?
i will never understand your stance on PF if they aren’t prog nothing is. It’s almost like you are claiming they were too popular to be prog. I’ll even state interstellar overdrive is the first prog song.
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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby C » 09 Oct 2021, 15:58

Perhaps some of the best prog bands were not influential because they were so unique.

I offer Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull and Gong

We’re Amon Düül II prog….?



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Re: The Prog Premier League - Create

Postby robertff » 09 Oct 2021, 16:52

Vote in from Purgatory Brite.


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