Favorite jazz drummer

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Connie Kay
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Jimmy Cobb
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Shelly Manne
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Gene Krupa
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9%
Buddy Rich
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9%
Tony Williams
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Elvin Jones
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9%
Max Roach
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36%
Art Blakey
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9%
other
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27%
 
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Favorite jazz drummer

Postby GoogaMooga » 19 Sep 2021, 23:59

Okay, let's do it. I know of no other music genre that can boast of so many superstar drummers, some even leaders of their own combos. In the swing era, I'd choose Gene Krupa. His style anticipated rock'n'roll.

In modern jazz/free jazz it's got to be Elvin Jones with his sheets of sound for Coltrane, and later on, as leader of the Elvin Jones Jazz Machine.

Overall, I choose Elvin Jones.

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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Rayge » 20 Sep 2021, 09:53

Chick Webb should be in the list, I think, but even if he were, I'd go for Krupa.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby C » 20 Sep 2021, 10:08

Yes, a very strong list Googs.

Krupa could walk away with this!

But I am going with Max Roach




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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby GoogaMooga » 20 Sep 2021, 12:59

Rayge wrote:Chick Webb should be in the list, I think, but even if he were, I'd go for Krupa.


I tend to think of him more as a bandleader, The Chick Webb Orchestra w. Ella Fitzgerald.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby GoogaMooga » 20 Sep 2021, 13:00

C wrote:Yes, a very strong list Googs.

Krupa could walk away with this!

But I am going with Max Roach




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Good choice
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby C » 20 Sep 2021, 13:34

GoogaMooga wrote:
C wrote:Yes, a very strong list Googs.

Krupa could walk away with this!

But I am going with Max Roach




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Good choice


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C wrote:Will Barclay James Harvest feature well.....?

If we get as far as a top 100, I'd certainly consider it

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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Diamond Dog » 20 Sep 2021, 14:30

Buddy Rich is, put simply, the best drummer. Of any genre.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Mike Boom » 21 Sep 2021, 00:40

Diamond Dog wrote:Buddy Rich is, put simply, the best drummer. Of any genre.


certainly according to Buddy Rich he is ... :lol:

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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Diamond Dog » 21 Sep 2021, 08:21

Mike Boom wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:Buddy Rich is, put simply, the best drummer. Of any genre.


certainly according to Buddy Rich he is ... :lol:


This is most certainly true! :lol:
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Hightea » 21 Sep 2021, 16:13

Hm - Well I would consider Buddy (saw him live) the most talented and Gene Krupa one of the best.

But when it comes to taste I'll take Max(picked max in poll) or Tony Williams (saw them both) and was blown away.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Six String » 21 Sep 2021, 17:52

Max Roach is an excellent candidate. His use of polyrhythms and other techniques puts him very high on many lists, a true pioneer. In terms of my favorite I’ll be contrary and choose Alan Dawson who played with Booker Ervin, Mal Waldron and many more. Tony Williams took lessons from him after he had already made it which tells you something. He retired from touring and recording and became a full time teacher at one point. The other that gets a mention from me is Joe Chambers who played on many Blue Note albums with artists like Bobby Hutcherson and Andrew Hill. All of these drummers listed on the thread are trailblazers in jazz.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Six String » 22 Sep 2021, 15:17

…and where is Roy Haynes? He has played with every bebop musician of any note from Charlie Parker and Miles to Coltrane, Monk and Rhasan Roland Kirk. To top it off he is the only one on the list still alive and playing music!
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby der Freiherr » 22 Sep 2021, 16:59

Six String wrote:Max Roach is an excellent candidate. His use of polyrhythms and other techniques puts him very high on many lists, a true pioneer.


I’m not a hardcore jazzbo like Six String, but Max Roach is my favorite. His playing on those 50s Sonny Rollins records is the first jazz drumming that really stood out to me. Which isn’t throwing stones … jazz drumming is so amazing it’s almost incomprehensible to me how they do it. But, maybe because it’s too incredible, I rarely follow it attentively when I’m listening, and most drummers on the records I would listen to are uniformly great.
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Postby harvey k-tel » 22 Sep 2021, 18:14

Joe Morello deserves an honourable mention, too.
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Re: Favorite jazz drumme

Postby Muskrat » 22 Sep 2021, 19:40

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A few I like who haven’t been mentioned are Dannie Richmond, Dave Tough, Mel Lewis and Jake Hanna.

Don’t know that I’ve ever bought a jazz record on the strength of the drummer. Art Blakey, of course, but that’s more about the bands he put together.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Charlie O. » 22 Sep 2021, 21:55

Like Muskrat, I could never choose A Favorite...

... but I do really love Dannie Richmond's playing with Mingus. It was maybe more about how they played with/off of each other than it was about Dannie's playing in and of itself, though.

As for more recent drummers, I really enjoyed Ralph Peterson... who, I only just learned, died a few months ago (cancer). :(
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Postby pcqgod » 23 Sep 2021, 04:30

1. Max Roach
2. Philly Joe Jones

When we're talking about technically amazing drummers don't overlook Louis Bellson. That cat was amazing.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby Six String » 23 Sep 2021, 19:50

pcqgod wrote:1. Max Roach
2. Philly Joe Jones

When we're talking about technically amazing drummers don't overlook Louis Bellson. That cat was amazing.


Yes! A good shout out to Philly Joe. He’s a favorite of mine as well. Louie Bellson is superb as well though I don’t many recordings with him. He and Buddy Rich are two I respect a lot but don’t listen to much. I’ve been lucky enough to see most of these drummers and they are all amazing in their own ways.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby bobzilla77 » 24 Sep 2021, 04:16

Mind-blowers yet to come up in the thread (unless maybe I missed em) are Tony Williams, Billy Higgins, Big Sid Catlett, Lenny White, Andrew Cyrille, Ed Blackwell, Billy Cobham, Ralph Humphries(the one who played with Horace Silver, not the one who played with Zappa, also great),and I should pay more attention to modern music.
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Re: Favorite jazz drummer

Postby bobzilla77 » 24 Sep 2021, 04:26

Diamond Dog wrote:
Mike Boom wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:Buddy Rich is, put simply, the best drummer. Of any genre.


certainly according to Buddy Rich he is ... :lol:


This is most certainly true! :lol:



I think Buddy plays a lot of music that is meant to show off his formidable technique. And it's got entertainment value, I enjoy a good song and dance like anybody. He's got technique and a huge vocabulary, and lives to show it off. He's really good at his job.

But he's not my favorite drummer to listen to, not by some stretch.

A player like Elvin can stretch the fabric of space and time, using nothing but a high hat and ride cymbal. That's like real magic, real alchemy, compared to a guy that wants to show ya a card trick.

He keeps getting into these battles with other drummers. Maybe of they played something together instead of trying to out-show-off each other they could really do something. I wonder if that ever occurred to him.
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