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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:08

Beautifully recorded and 1959 too.

Give me this production and sound over what became the bloody 80s...!




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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby Six String » 14 Sep 2021, 21:09

It really shows Flanagan’s greatness to play on such a knuckle buster. I am remembering correctly that Tommy played it once and refused a second take? I may be misremembering.
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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:10

Arthur Taylor - a very influential tubsman




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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby John aka Josh » 14 Sep 2021, 21:10

C wrote:Ah, that's better up to speed now.

Somebody needed to put a bob in the meter!

Evening JJ
Evening Chris

What wonderful music

Possibly my fave Coltrane album....




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Too many top albums to have one favourite. Of late I've been playing Afro Blue Impressions most, but My Favourite Things, Ballads and with Duke Ellington are in regular rotation too.
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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby LMG » 14 Sep 2021, 21:11

Pure Coltrane.

Resisting the temptation to add another horn, yet filling all available space with his sound when his vision requires it.

You can hear why so many youngsters have heard this down the ages and thought 'I want to play THAT instument and THIS music!'

It is also worth reflecting that JC went from these pyrotechnics to music of great beauty, fragility, mingled with dissonance in a few short years after this album.

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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

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C wrote:Arthur Taylor - a very influential tubsman




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the question is - who didn't Art play with...?!




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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:12

John aka Josh wrote:
C wrote:Ah, that's better up to speed now.

Somebody needed to put a bob in the meter!

Evening JJ
Evening Chris

What wonderful music

Possibly my fave Coltrane album....




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Too many top albums to have one favourite. Of late I've been playing Afro Blue Impressions most, but My Favourite Things, Ballads and with Duke Ellington are in regular rotation too.


I know John - I hesitated when I typed it

One of my top 3 maybe 5

Phew!




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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby John aka Josh » 14 Sep 2021, 21:13

C wrote:Beautifully recorded and 1959 too.

Give me this production and sound over what became the bloody 80s...!




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Many wonderful things came into this world in '59!!! ;)





Spot on with observation on production and sound.
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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:13

LMG wrote:Pure Coltrane.

Resisting the temptation to add another horn, yet filling all available space with his sound when his vision requires it.

You can hear why so many youngsters have heard this down the ages and thought 'I want to play THAT instument and THIS music!'

It is also worth reflecting that JC went from these pyrotechnics to music of great beauty, fragility, mingled with dissonance in a few short years after this album.


Nice post Chris

All good points well made




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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby LMG » 14 Sep 2021, 21:14

John aka Josh wrote:
C wrote:Ah, that's better up to speed now.

Somebody needed to put a bob in the meter!

Evening JJ
Evening Chris

What wonderful music

Possibly my fave Coltrane album....




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Too many top albums to have one favourite. Of late I've been playing Afro Blue Impressions most, but My Favourite Things, Ballads and with Duke Ellington are in regular rotation too.


I have played all three in the past few weeks, by coincidence. The Duke Ellington album was not one I knew at all, indeed I was rather surprised to find I had a copy.

I am a bit like that these days. No baby chasing a greenback underwater or woman walking her jaguar at night while her chauffeur smirks on the cover, and I have a hard time registering the purchase.

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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby John aka Josh » 14 Sep 2021, 21:15

LMG wrote:Pure Coltrane.


It is also worth reflecting that JC went from these pyrotechnics to music of great beauty, fragility, mingled with dissonance in a few short years after this album.




His artistic growth and his questing spirit were exceptional.




Apologies - Double Doob would have been a quicker type!
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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby LMG » 14 Sep 2021, 21:16

John aka Josh wrote:
LMG wrote:Pure Coltrane.


It is also worth reflecting that JC went from these pyrotechnics to music of great beauty, fragility, mingled with dissonance in a few short years after this album.




His artistic growth and his questing spirit were exceptional.




Apologies - Double Doob would have been a quicker type!


Doobs all round.

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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby Six String » 14 Sep 2021, 21:17

Tommy Flanagan can be so unassuming at times but he’ s always there with his support. He’s never played with pyrotechnics but he someone needs to hold things together!
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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:18

John aka Josh wrote:Many wonderful things came into this world in '59!!! ;)


:lol:

You know John, today or was it yesterday, I played sides 1 and 2 of Seconds Out and listening to the track Lamb Lies Down made me realise that because I disliked that specific track it might just might influence my view a little on the album which I have never rated.

Now, what's the relevance of this? Well I can't stand the original Sound of Music My Favourite Things - I rarely say it but I detest it it is not my cup of tea. Subsequently when I hear Coltrane's brilliant version and it is brilliant it clouds it somewhat

Should I lie down on the couch....?




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Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:18

Six String wrote:Tommy Flanagan can be so unassuming at times but he’ s always there with his support. He’s never played with pyrotechnics but he someone needs to hold things together!


Correct and well put Les




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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:19

We are missing our kath again this evening/afternoon - I hope all is well

kath girl - you okay?




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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby Six String » 14 Sep 2021, 21:20

Tommy’s solo on Spiral is really nice.
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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby John aka Josh » 14 Sep 2021, 21:21

LMG wrote:The Duke Ellington album was not one I knew at all, indeed I was rather surprised to find I had a copy.

I am a bit like that these days. No baby chasing a greenback underwater or woman walking her jaguar at night while her chauffeur smirks on the cover, and I have a hard time registering the purchase.






Me too - I've had to resort to keeping a small list with my cards for a few artists (mainly classical) to remind me of what I've got. Was hesitating today over a Vaughn Williams CD - turned out I did have the work, though not by that orchestra & conductor.
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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby LMG » 14 Sep 2021, 21:21

I need this mono version on CD if it is readily available.

Sounds just grand.

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Re: LL/PSL: September Birthday Bash: Tues 14th Coltrane and Fri 17th Martyn @ 9pm

Postby C » 14 Sep 2021, 21:21

Stunningly fluent playing from Coltrane with the rest of the band doing their bit and as tight as a duck's ass/arse

Majestic and full of music





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