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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby Spock! » 11 Jun 2021, 21:52

C wrote:By the way- Volume 2 is good (not as good as the first but pretty good)

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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 11 Jun 2021, 21:52

EXCELLENT interview with Steve York here:

https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2020 ... r-joe.html

ON this evening's band:

"You left East of Eden and recorded Manfred Mann Chapter Three. How was it to be part of this interesting project that Manfred Mann and Mike Hugg started originally under the name of Emanon?

- It was unique because there was no guitar. That gave me a lot of freedom both harmonically and in terms of my sound. I also soloed a lot in that band. Really enjoyed working with horn section!

The concept of the band included a lot of free improvisation space but on the other hand Manfred was meticulous about the arranged parts. He was never satisfied with something that worked until he had tried every other option! We were also busy with recording jingle for TV. I was also busy with sessions for another jingle house. Often I would play on competing jingles for the same product. Here is one we did for Michelin. It was pressed as a 45rpm and distributed to Michelin dealers. “Michelin Theme“.

Most important to me was that we toured the US. It was my first visit. Our first date was three nights at the Fillmore West in San Francisco with Boz Scaggs, Steve Miller and the reunion of Janis Joplin & Big Brother and the Holding Company. I was humbled!

Working with Manfred Mann Chapter Three was a great learning experience!

Footnote. A few years ago I received an email asking how I got my bass sound on a track called “Stand Up” by UK group The Prodigy! I investigated and found out they have based the track around a Manfred Mann Chapter Three sample. The track sold over a 1.2 million in the UK. I put in a claim and have received royalties in the five figures since. A nice bonus that somewhat makes up for some of the royalties that were stolen from me!"

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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby kath » 11 Jun 2021, 21:53

i love 'where am i going'. it sounds like a last-call track, closing out the night, closing out the smoky, one last late bit in the bar.

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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 11 Jun 2021, 21:53

A great album in great company

Thanks kath
Thanks Chris
Thanks John

To absent friends Reap, Loki, Scally & Footy

And Derek Wadsworth, Steve York and Harry Beckett




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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby kath » 11 Jun 2021, 21:54

LMG wrote:EXCELLENT interview with Steve York here:

https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2020 ... r-joe.html

ON this evening's band:

"You left East of Eden and recorded Manfred Mann Chapter Three. How was it to be part of this interesting project that Manfred Mann and Mike Hugg started originally under the name of Emanon?

- It was unique because there was no guitar. That gave me a lot of freedom both harmonically and in terms of my sound. I also soloed a lot in that band. Really enjoyed working with horn section!

The concept of the band included a lot of free improvisation space but on the other hand Manfred was meticulous about the arranged parts. He was never satisfied with something that worked until he had tried every other option! We were also busy with recording jingle for TV. I was also busy with sessions for another jingle house. Often I would play on competing jingles for the same product. Here is one we did for Michelin. It was pressed as a 45rpm and distributed to Michelin dealers. “Michelin Theme“.

Most important to me was that we toured the US. It was my first visit. Our first date was three nights at the Fillmore West in San Francisco with Boz Scaggs, Steve Miller and the reunion of Janis Joplin & Big Brother and the Holding Company. I was humbled!

Working with Manfred Mann Chapter Three was a great learning experience!

Footnote. A few years ago I received an email asking how I got my bass sound on a track called “Stand Up” by UK group The Prodigy! I investigated and found out they have based the track around a Manfred Mann Chapter Three sample. The track sold over a 1.2 million in the UK. I put in a claim and have received royalties in the five figures since. A nice bonus that somewhat makes up for some of the royalties that were stolen from me!"


excellent, is what this is.

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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 11 Jun 2021, 21:54

LMG wrote:EXCELLENT interview with Steve York here:

https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2020 ... r-joe.html

ON this evening's band:

"You left East of Eden and recorded Manfred Mann Chapter Three. How was it to be part of this interesting project that Manfred Mann and Mike Hugg started originally under the name of Emanon?

- It was unique because there was no guitar. That gave me a lot of freedom both harmonically and in terms of my sound. I also soloed a lot in that band. Really enjoyed working with horn section!

The concept of the band included a lot of free improvisation space but on the other hand Manfred was meticulous about the arranged parts. He was never satisfied with something that worked until he had tried every other option! We were also busy with recording jingle for TV. I was also busy with sessions for another jingle house. Often I would play on competing jingles for the same product. Here is one we did for Michelin. It was pressed as a 45rpm and distributed to Michelin dealers. “Michelin Theme“.

Most important to me was that we toured the US. It was my first visit. Our first date was three nights at the Fillmore West in San Francisco with Boz Scaggs, Steve Miller and the reunion of Janis Joplin & Big Brother and the Holding Company. I was humbled!

Working with Manfred Mann Chapter Three was a great learning experience!

Footnote. A few years ago I received an email asking how I got my bass sound on a track called “Stand Up” by UK group The Prodigy! I investigated and found out they have based the track around a Manfred Mann Chapter Three sample. The track sold over a 1.2 million in the UK. I put in a claim and have received royalties in the five figures since. A nice bonus that somewhat makes up for some of the royalties that were stolen from me!"


Thanks Chris!



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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby Spock! » 11 Jun 2021, 21:55

LMG wrote:EXCELLENT interview with Steve York here:

https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2020 ... r-joe.html

ON this evening's band:

"You left East of Eden and recorded Manfred Mann Chapter Three. How was it to be part of this interesting project that Manfred Mann and Mike Hugg started originally under the name of Emanon?

- It was unique because there was no guitar. That gave me a lot of freedom both harmonically and in terms of my sound. I also soloed a lot in that band. Really enjoyed working with horn section!

The concept of the band included a lot of free improvisation space but on the other hand Manfred was meticulous about the arranged parts. He was never satisfied with something that worked until he had tried every other option! We were also busy with recording jingle for TV. I was also busy with sessions for another jingle house. Often I would play on competing jingles for the same product. Here is one we did for Michelin. It was pressed as a 45rpm and distributed to Michelin dealers. “Michelin Theme“.

Most important to me was that we toured the US. It was my first visit. Our first date was three nights at the Fillmore West in San Francisco with Boz Scaggs, Steve Miller and the reunion of Janis Joplin & Big Brother and the Holding Company. I was humbled!

Working with Manfred Mann Chapter Three was a great learning experience!

Footnote. A few years ago I received an email asking how I got my bass sound on a track called “Stand Up” by UK group The Prodigy! I investigated and found out they have based the track around a Manfred Mann Chapter Three sample. The track sold over a 1.2 million in the UK. I put in a claim and have received royalties in the five figures since. A nice bonus that somewhat makes up for some of the royalties that were stolen from me!"






Great that he got some (very) decent royalties.


Have bookmarked the page and will read it later, thanks for the alert.
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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 11 Jun 2021, 21:56

Yes, to absent friends.

Cheers to everyone here - thanks for a great evening.

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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby Spock! » 11 Jun 2021, 21:56

Truly wonderful album, made even better with your company, thanks.




To Reap, Loki, Scally,Footy and of course thanks to Steve, Derek and Harry.





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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby kath » 11 Jun 2021, 21:58

what a fantastic listen. loved every second.

thanks y'all, brethren.

(and congrats again, JJ! it is not an easy thing to pull off. nope.)

i hope everyone has a great weekend. this is when y'all root for LSU baseball. just so ya know.

a toast to absent friends, all.

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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 12 Jun 2021, 15:16

John aka Josh wrote:Have you heard, and if so is it worth it?

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Sorry JJ, I missed this yesterday

No. I am not familiar but I am very keen now.

I will investigate.

Undoubtedly a bootleg of poor sound quality - certainly not an official release





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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby LMG » 16 Jun 2021, 19:06

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Postby LMG » 16 Jun 2021, 19:20

C wrote:
John aka Josh wrote:Have you heard, and if so is it worth it?

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Sorry JJ, I missed this yesterday

No. I am not familiar but I am very keen now.

I will investigate.

Undoubtedly a bootleg of poor sound quality - certainly not an official release





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No, no.

The CD is very official - it is part of a series of Manfred Mann rare/radio session releases put out by a label in collaboration with Manfred himself on the same label as a lot of his official re-releases:

https://www.eastcentralone.com/about.html
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... y&path=115
https://www.eastcentralone.com/index.html
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... ommon/home
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... ry&path=82
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... uct_id=228

The Chapter III set is interesting, but an awful lot of it is made up of interviews and the radio adverts for products discussed in the interview with Steve York I cited above.

Chapter III obviously kept themselves going via 'bread-and-butter' sessions for admen and film projects.

So included are several ad jingles and the soundtrack to the risible Eurotrash film of Venus In Furs.
Wallpaper music - Listen once and forget - it is on Spotify.

The real delights are the radio sessions and album demos/singles. There are lengthy tracks which seem to be entirely unreleased before, as well as singles takes from the original masters.

Worth acquiring? You decide...

But by any standard a quality product, even if some of the actual recordings are sub-par in themselves.
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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby C » 16 Jun 2021, 20:10

LMG wrote:
C wrote:
John aka Josh wrote:Have you heard, and if so is it worth it?

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Sorry JJ, I missed this yesterday

No. I am not familiar but I am very keen now.

I will investigate.

Undoubtedly a bootleg of poor sound quality - certainly not an official release





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No, no.

The CD is very official - it is part of a series of Manfred Mann rare/radio session releases put out by a label in collaboration with Manfred himself on the same label as a lot of his official re-releases:

https://www.eastcentralone.com/about.html
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... y&path=115
https://www.eastcentralone.com/index.html
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... ommon/home
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... ry&path=82
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... uct_id=228

The Chapter III set is interesting, but an awful lot of it is made up of interviews and the radio adverts for products discussed in the interview with Steve York I cited above.

Chapter III obviously kept themselves going via 'bread-and-butter' sessions for admen and film projects.

So included are several ad jingles and the soundtrack to the risible Eurotrash film of Venus In Furs.
Wallpaper music - Listen once and forget - it is on Spotify.

The real delights are the radio sessions and album demos/singles. There are lengthy tracks which seem to be entirely unreleased before, as well as singles takes from the original masters.

Worth acquiring? You decide...

But by any standard a quality product, even if some of the actual recordings are sub-par in themselves.


Thanks Chris - that is very useful.

Much appreciated - I will investigate



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Re: PSL: Fri 11th June Manfred Mann Chapter 3 @ 9pm [UK]

Postby Spock! » 16 Jun 2021, 22:39

C wrote:
LMG wrote:
C wrote:
Sorry JJ, I missed this yesterday

No. I am not familiar but I am very keen now.

I will investigate.

Undoubtedly a bootleg of poor sound quality - certainly not an official release





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No, no.

The CD is very official - it is part of a series of Manfred Mann rare/radio session releases put out by a label in collaboration with Manfred himself on the same label as a lot of his official re-releases:

https://www.eastcentralone.com/about.html
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... y&path=115
https://www.eastcentralone.com/index.html
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... ommon/home
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... ry&path=82
https://www.cd-warehouse.com/index.php? ... uct_id=228

The Chapter III set is interesting, but an awful lot of it is made up of interviews and the radio adverts for products discussed in the interview with Steve York I cited above.

Chapter III obviously kept themselves going via 'bread-and-butter' sessions for admen and film projects.

So included are several ad jingles and the soundtrack to the risible Eurotrash film of Venus In Furs.
Wallpaper music - Listen once and forget - it is on Spotify.

The real delights are the radio sessions and album demos/singles. There are lengthy tracks which seem to be entirely unreleased before, as well as singles takes from the original masters.

Worth acquiring? You decide...

But by any standard a quality product, even if some of the actual recordings are sub-par in themselves.


Thanks Chris - that is very useful.

Much appreciated - I will investigate



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Me too.

Thanks again.
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