Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Mike Boom » 16 Apr 2021, 19:32

I must say all EC's very best stuff was produced by Basher, and same as Charlie, LOL and JOC are both great, must check out some of his later efforts

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby mudshark » 16 Apr 2021, 22:56

Not only, but also!
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby slightbreeze » 16 Apr 2021, 23:40

:?: He's ok....in football parlance, a good one to bring off the bench, but not a regular starter. Better than Costello? Never in a million years.

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Charlie O. » 16 Apr 2021, 23:42

I will say this: Nick has seldom truly annoyed me, whereas EC has frequently done so (very nearly everything since Side 1 of Blood And Chocolate, in fact).
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Walk In My Shadow » 17 Apr 2021, 07:54

Hugh wrote:
Walk In My Shadow wrote:
mudshark wrote: and Dan Penn is at least as good as Burt Bacharach.



Very true this


As a writer of melodies?



He is a leading light in the Country Soul genre. But more known for writing hits for others (Box Tops, Aretha Franklin, James & Bobby Purify).
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Postby The Slider » 17 Apr 2021, 08:20

Charlie O. wrote:Nick has seldom truly annoyed me


I think that is half the trouble, Charlie
He's inoffensive.

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Hugh » 17 Apr 2021, 09:09

Walk In My Shadow wrote:
Hugh wrote:
Walk In My Shadow wrote:

Very true this


As a writer of melodies?



He is a leading light in the Country Soul genre. But more known for writing hits for others (Box Tops, Aretha Franklin, James & Bobby Purify).


I know who he is and I’m a fan but as tunesmith can anyone honestly say he is in the same league as Bacharach?

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Walk In My Shadow » 17 Apr 2021, 09:35

Hugh wrote:
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Hugh wrote:
As a writer of melodies?



He is a leading light in the Country Soul genre. But more known for writing hits for others (Box Tops, Aretha Franklin, James & Bobby Purify).


I know who he is and I’m a fan but as tunesmith can anyone honestly say he is in the same league as Bacharach?



Perhaps not but I'm no fan of Burt.
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Rorschach » 17 Apr 2021, 10:45

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Canis lupus » 17 Apr 2021, 11:20

Hugh wrote:
As a writer of melodies?


I’m a fan but as tunesmith can anyone honestly say he is in the same league as Bacharach?


He was blatantly pitching against Donald Fagen on “So It Goes”. The key change and guitar solo rescued it (just in time).

I matched him against Dave Edmunds (Girls Talk v Cruel to be Kind) ages ago which DE won comfortably, I think

I’ve always thought Lowe a great storyteller (with a fascinating chronicle). This is probably still my favourite episode:



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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby The Fish » 17 Apr 2021, 12:14

Well Girls Talk was written by Costello of course.

And as for the Dan Penn debate..... Dark End of The Street - Case closed.
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Walk In My Shadow » 17 Apr 2021, 12:55

The Fish wrote:And as for the Dan Penn debate..... Dark End of The Street - Case closed.





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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

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The Fish wrote:Well Girls Talk was written by Costello of course.

And as for the Dan Penn debate..... Dark End of The Street - Case closed.


I've never understood the love for that song. It's a silly concept and the tune's nothing special.
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

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Rorschach wrote:
The Fish wrote:Well Girls Talk was written by Costello of course.

And as for the Dan Penn debate..... Dark End of The Street - Case closed.


I've never understood the love for that song. It's a silly concept and the tune's nothing special.

I think it's more to do with James Carr's delivery
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby The Slider » 17 Apr 2021, 15:40

I'm no great fan of the song either
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Charlie O. » 17 Apr 2021, 17:14

Well, I'm a great fan of the song, and I don't think I've heard a version I don't like. So there.
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Hugh » 17 Apr 2021, 19:40

Canis lupus wrote:
Hugh wrote:
As a writer of melodies?


I’m a fan but as tunesmith can anyone honestly say he is in the same league as Bacharach?


He was blatantly pitching against Donald Fagen on “So It Goes”. The key change and guitar solo rescued it (just in time).

I matched him against Dave Edmunds (Girls Talk v Cruel to be Kind) ages ago which DE won comfortably, I think

I’ve always thought Lowe a great storyteller (with a fascinating chronicle). This is probably still my favourite episode:



:D


It was Dan Penn v Bacharach we were did using not Lowe.

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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby Rorschach » 18 Apr 2021, 10:51

Charlie O. wrote:Well, I'm a great fan of the song, and I don't think I've heard a version I don't like. So there.


I'm tempted to do a version myself. That'd show you.
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Re: Nick Lowe - the first 10 years

Postby yomptepi » 18 Apr 2021, 11:51

The Slider wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Well, there's no accounting for taste.

To be fair, while I think Heart of the City and What's So Funny ... are fine songs, I haven't listened to a lot more of what he's done. The few tracks I've listened to didn't inspire me at all.


I think he's too run-of-the-mill-country-rock oriented for my liking.
A comp is plenty for me, and I rarely play that

He's good at what he does but what he does is not very interesting to me.
I would take 100 Costellos out of 100 over him.
And 95 Dave Edmundses too.


Agreed. I find him very dull. L am sure he is quite good at what he does, but I just find it boring. He is a musician and a technician rather than an artist. A bit like Garth Brooks. He knows how to do it , but there is something missing.
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