Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Do talk back
User avatar
Neige
Alpine Numpty
Posts: 17540
Joined: 17 Jul 2003, 11:11
Location: On 2 oz of plastic with a hole in the middle (of nowhere)

Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Neige » 22 Jan 2022, 16:31

Currently on powerplay at Neigemont Castle.

Image

Much better than the advance singles led me to expect, with some instant classics - he's still got it!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxiWQsl2oSU&list=PLe0heRDhXt1LtFZoL5YZmjuWr4kSUBAw2

Still really ugly cover art, though
Last edited by Neige on 22 Jan 2022, 18:19, edited 1 time in total.
Thumpety-thump beats plinkety-plonk every time. - Rayge

User avatar
mudshark
Posts: 1317
Joined: 25 Jul 2003, 03:51

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby mudshark » 22 Jan 2022, 17:57

Youtube started it off with a song that had the word "Halfpenny" in it. It started to irritate me after 27 seconds so I switched off. I found his voice annoying, but maybe it's because the B&O speaker in my laptop sucks. I hardly ever listen to music on my computer.
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over

User avatar
Neige
Alpine Numpty
Posts: 17540
Joined: 17 Jul 2003, 11:11
Location: On 2 oz of plastic with a hole in the middle (of nowhere)

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Neige » 22 Jan 2022, 18:20

mudshark wrote:Youtube started it off with a song that had the word "Halfpenny" in it. It started to irritate me after 27 seconds so I switched off. I found his voice annoying, but maybe it's because the B&O speaker in my laptop sucks. I hardly ever listen to music on my computer.


I changed the link so it would play in sequence from the beginning - but if you hate his voice so much. I doubt it will make any difference :lol:
Thumpety-thump beats plinkety-plonk every time. - Rayge

User avatar
mudshark
Posts: 1317
Joined: 25 Jul 2003, 03:51

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby mudshark » 22 Jan 2022, 19:03

It strange: I loved and love My Aim Is True, so I can't dislike his voice that much. And I really like Almost Blue. But that's about it. When the wife and I saw him Live in Houston several years ago I didn't enjoy his performance at all. Looks like I'm not really into music at all. WTF am I doing on this chatboard anyway??

I know! Currently playing the 2016 vinyl re-print of Ummagumma. The sound is just amazing. In my opinion the best live album (well, half album) The Pink Floyd Sound has produced, Currently head-banging to Careful wiiitth tthhat Axxxe Eeugeeene, sooo fforggive tthe tyyyyyyyyposs..
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over

User avatar
Neige
Alpine Numpty
Posts: 17540
Joined: 17 Jul 2003, 11:11
Location: On 2 oz of plastic with a hole in the middle (of nowhere)

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Neige » 22 Jan 2022, 19:30

mudshark wrote:... In my opinion the best live album (well, half album) The Pink Floyd Sound has produced, Currently head-banging to Careful wiiitth tthhat Axxxe Eeugeeene, sooo fforggive tthe tyyyyyyyyposs..


... totally with you there, muddie :x
Thumpety-thump beats plinkety-plonk every time. - Rayge

User avatar
robertff
Posts: 8316
Joined: 20 Jul 2003, 06:59

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby robertff » 22 Jan 2022, 19:33

Like the cover, don't like him much.


.

User avatar
mudshark
Posts: 1317
Joined: 25 Jul 2003, 03:51

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby mudshark » 22 Jan 2022, 19:36

Never met the man so can't judge
Just put on Patti's Horses so it's promising to be a Glorias afternoon.
There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over

User avatar
Mike Boom
Posts: 3935
Joined: 02 Sep 2005, 03:49

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Mike Boom » 23 Jan 2022, 07:04

It seems it has that classic EC sound but to me seems to be lacking in the melody department. Only listened to it briefly so more playings may change that opinion.

User avatar
50 Shades Of Blue
Posts: 1901
Joined: 21 Aug 2003, 17:43
Location: Evidently Chickentown

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 25 Jan 2022, 22:54

Thanks to Prof of this parish I heard this album on release.
I liked it and recommended it to others and one of them came back to me today saying he had seen EC performing on the Graham Norton Show a week ago and he wasn't very good. After telling him the GN Show is for fuds I checked out EC's performance and sure enough it was horrific. Accompanied only by Steve Nieve on keyboard EC sang so appallingly flat that I had to switch it off less than half way through.
Which brings me to my point. When I listened to the album track concerned, "Paint The Red Rose Red", it sounded like there was autotune on his vocal. To me that would suggest he struggled with the vocal for that song in the studio so very odd to then try to perform it live on TV, accompanied only by Steve Nieve on keyboard, as a showcase for the new album and his summer tour.
Can anyone confirm if EC's vocal on the album recording of this tune has been treated with the dreaded autotune?
Some mother's talking 'bout Guns' n 'Roses
As if i give a fuck
At best i think they suck

User avatar
Mike Boom
Posts: 3935
Joined: 02 Sep 2005, 03:49

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Mike Boom » 26 Jan 2022, 00:42

Don't hear it myself, I think generally his voice is pretty strong, whether you like it or not. I saw that Graham Norton appearance, and didn't really notice him being out of tune, even though I wasn't impressed. I quite like the album version tho having heard it a few times now.

User avatar
yomptepi
BCB thumbscrew of Justice
Posts: 36316
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 17:57
Location: well

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby yomptepi » 26 Jan 2022, 15:04

It is certainly an more upbeat and muscular record than he has made for a while. His best since Brutal Youth I suspect.
You don't like me...do you?

User avatar
Walk In My Shadow
Hello Laydeez
Posts: 38508
Joined: 23 Jul 2003, 20:02
Location: The Good, the Bad, both ugly
Contact:

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Walk In My Shadow » 26 Jan 2022, 15:09

After hearing this album I shall buy all his previous albums at once. It is that good.


Said I never.




On the plus side: in last Saturdays quiz I got the fragment of Mystery Dance right. Don't know where that came from.
Beneluxfunkmeisterlurvegod


Image

User avatar
Jock
Posts: 9436
Joined: 31 Dec 2005, 10:59
Location: Guid aul' Killie

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Jock » 26 Jan 2022, 16:06

Walk In My Shadow wrote:After hearing this album I shall buy all his previous albums at once. It is that good.


Said I never.




On the plus side: in last Saturdays quiz I got the fragment of Mystery Dance right. Don't know where that came from.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Always Cheated Never Defeated

User avatar
Jock
Posts: 9436
Joined: 31 Dec 2005, 10:59
Location: Guid aul' Killie

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Jock » 26 Jan 2022, 16:07

His best in years. It was the featured album on my hospital radio show today :D
Always Cheated Never Defeated

Hugh
Posts: 16015
Joined: 16 Jul 2003, 20:43

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Hugh » 26 Jan 2022, 19:58

50 Shades Of Blue wrote:Can anyone confirm if EC's vocal on the album recording of this tune has been treated with the dreaded autotune?


I’d be surprised - actually more disappointed than surprised - if he used auto tune. Having said that, his voice was noticeably more ragged on his last tour in 2020 than it had been in 2018.

User avatar
50 Shades Of Blue
Posts: 1901
Joined: 21 Aug 2003, 17:43
Location: Evidently Chickentown

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 29 Jan 2022, 01:30

Hugh wrote:
50 Shades Of Blue wrote:Can anyone confirm if EC's vocal on the album recording of this tune has been treated with the dreaded autotune?


I’d be surprised - actually more disappointed than surprised - if he used auto tune. Having said that, his voice was noticeably more ragged on his last tour in 2020 than it had been in 2018.


As the saying goes old age doesn't come by itself.
The album is good and that is what's important.
The track "Trick out the Truth" is well and truly wedged in my head including lots of it's great lyric.
Last edited by 50 Shades Of Blue on 29 Jan 2022, 01:39, edited 1 time in total.
Some mother's talking 'bout Guns' n 'Roses

As if i give a fuck

At best i think they suck

User avatar
50 Shades Of Blue
Posts: 1901
Joined: 21 Aug 2003, 17:43
Location: Evidently Chickentown

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby 50 Shades Of Blue » 29 Jan 2022, 01:38

Jock wrote:His best in years. It was the featured album on my hospital radio show today :D


In good company, Roddy Hart played 3 tracks from it on his Radio show 2 nights ago.
It is really getting a lot of praise. A shame that so few people will actually buy it in these days of downloads.
Last edited by 50 Shades Of Blue on 03 Feb 2022, 16:37, edited 1 time in total.
Some mother's talking 'bout Guns' n 'Roses

As if i give a fuck

At best i think they suck

User avatar
Neige
Alpine Numpty
Posts: 17540
Joined: 17 Jul 2003, 11:11
Location: On 2 oz of plastic with a hole in the middle (of nowhere)

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Neige » 29 Jan 2022, 08:15

50 Shades Of Blue wrote:The track "Trick out the Truth" is well and truly wedged in my head including lots of it's great lyric.


Yep, that one's ace - and I don't see him lacking in the melody department at all, there are several very memorable tunes
Thumpety-thump beats plinkety-plonk every time. - Rayge

User avatar
Tom Waits For No One
Posts: 5745
Joined: 14 Nov 2014, 08:05

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Tom Waits For No One » 29 Jan 2022, 08:38

yomptepi wrote:It is certainly an more upbeat and muscular record than he has made for a while.


I'd go along with this, certainly has more punch than the last two (Look Now, Hey Clockface) although they have their moments!

Picked up the bloody big book edition and it's been given a fair hammering here.
Up there with the best of EC&TA/TI.
Give a shit or be a shit.

User avatar
Neige
Alpine Numpty
Posts: 17540
Joined: 17 Jul 2003, 11:11
Location: On 2 oz of plastic with a hole in the middle (of nowhere)

Re: Costello's "The Boy Named If"

Postby Neige » 29 Jan 2022, 13:45

Tom Waits For No One wrote:Picked up the bloody big book edition....


That was sold out before I even knew it existed... :lol:
Thumpety-thump beats plinkety-plonk every time. - Rayge