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Postby GoogaMooga » 06 Oct 2019, 19:44

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Re: Batman

Postby Flower » 06 Oct 2019, 22:33

To be honest, many years ago when the first Batman movie came out, I thought that it was a tonsil and couldn't figure it out.
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Re: Batman

Postby harvey k-tel » 07 Oct 2019, 00:48

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the bat signal has never looked like that.
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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Oct 2019, 07:47

harvey k-tel wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble, but the bat signal has never looked like that.


I know. You need the head and pointy ears. The idea I suppose was to test how ingrained the symbol is, to see if people fall for it at a quick first glance. I did, and I am a comics fan who should know better.
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Re: Batman

Postby Jimbo » 07 Oct 2019, 08:32

Batman movies suck. The cheesy 60s TV show was far more entertaining.
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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Oct 2019, 09:31

Jimbo wrote:Batman movies suck. The cheesy 60s TV show was far more entertaining.


Oh, I agree. Perhaps the first Burtons, at a stretch. In comics, however, I feel the opposite. There I prefer the new look realism of Infantino and Adams to the camp of the 1950s.

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Re: Batman

Postby Jimbo » 07 Oct 2019, 09:54

GoogaMooga wrote:
Jimbo wrote:Batman movies suck. The cheesy 60s TV show was far more entertaining.


Oh, I agree. Perhaps the first Burtons, at a stretch. In comics, however, I feel the opposite. There I prefer the new look realism of Infantino and Adams to the camp of the 1950s.


I have no idea about modern comics but to call 50s Batman "camp" is wrong. It was just sensible, conservative commercial comic book writing.
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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Oct 2019, 12:05

Jimbo wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:
Jimbo wrote:Batman movies suck. The cheesy 60s TV show was far more entertaining.


Oh, I agree. Perhaps the first Burtons, at a stretch. In comics, however, I feel the opposite. There I prefer the new look realism of Infantino and Adams to the camp of the 1950s.


I have no idea about modern comics but to call 50s Batman "camp" is wrong. It was just sensible, conservative commercial comic book writing.


The term "camp" may only have been used from the 1960s onward, but there were plenty of examples of camp in pop culture before that. The 1950s Batman comics have always been referred to as camp by comics fans. They were just plain silly and tongue-in-cheek. 1940s and 1960s Batman comics were a lot darker and grittier.
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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Oct 2019, 12:11

Just checked, New Look was not introduced before May 1964, in Detective #327.

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Postby Flower » 07 Oct 2019, 12:16

Jimbo wrote:Batman movies suck. The cheesy 60s TV show was far more entertaining.


I agree .. :D
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Re: Batman

Postby Flower » 07 Oct 2019, 12:27

GoogaMooga wrote:
Oh, I agree. Perhaps the first Burtons, at a stretch. In comics, however, I feel the opposite. There I prefer the new look realism of Infantino and Adams to the camp of the 1950s.

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Interesting choice of cover. We attended a seminar given by Carmine at a comic convention around ten years ago. Carmine was very cool and kept talking about his good buddy, "Julie Schwartz", it was a lot of fun and were are glad to have met and spoken to him.
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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Oct 2019, 18:09

Wow! One of my real-life heroes. Voted second best comic book artist of all time by CBG. You know, that cover I posted is perhaps Carmine's most famous, only it was never used for a comic. It was for a dust-jacket for one of the first reprint collections (if not the first).
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Re: Batman

Postby Minnie the Minx » 07 Oct 2019, 18:36

So what do dirty weirdos see??
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Re: Batman

Postby Flower » 07 Oct 2019, 19:30

GoogaMooga wrote:Wow! One of my real-life heroes. Voted second best comic book artist of all time by CBG. You know, that cover I posted is perhaps Carmine's most famous, only it was never used for a comic. It was for a dust-jacket for one of the first reprint collections (if not the first).


We were fortunate enough to meet Ramona Fradon around the same time. I can't remember if it was at the same show. She's a very sweet woman.

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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 07 Oct 2019, 22:24

Flower wrote:
GoogaMooga wrote:Wow! One of my real-life heroes. Voted second best comic book artist of all time by CBG. You know, that cover I posted is perhaps Carmine's most famous, only it was never used for a comic. It was for a dust-jacket for one of the first reprint collections (if not the first).


We were fortunate enough to meet Ramona Fradon around the same time. I can't remember if it was at the same show. She's a very sweet woman.

https://www.vulture.com/2018/09/the-wom ... -star.html


Oh yes, Ramona Fradon! Golden age artist. Didn't even know she made convention appearances. She may be forgotten now, but not by me. I didn't know you were that knowledgeable about comics history.
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Re: Batman

Postby Flower » 08 Oct 2019, 01:15

GM ~ I'm more into Silver Age comics. Except for one Golden Age. I'm looking for Walt Disney Comics and Stories #48, this was drawn by Carl Barks who is famous for drawing ducks. I don't collect comics as a rule, more art, crystal and other collectibles.

When I was around five years old, my Dad who was a heavy smoker, would send me across a busy street to go to the local candy store to pick up cigarettes but he also always gave me extra money for candy and comics. I'm sure that this was to ease his mind in case I was killed by a car going for his cigarettes. ;)

While I picked up Archies, Tom & Jerry, etc .. I was also expected to pick up Superman for my Dad.
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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 08 Oct 2019, 01:58

Nice story! You must have gotten a daily fix of comics that way. As a child, my allowance only bought me one comic and a candy bar per week. So we'd borrow comics off one another, not too concerned about mint condition.

Now you've got me curious about that WDCS 48... :)
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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 08 Oct 2019, 02:00

Ooh, that's an early one, from 1944. Yes, I know the hawk ten-pager by Barks.
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Re: Batman

Postby Flower » 08 Oct 2019, 02:14

Yes .. not only do I like Donald Duck but "Flower" is on the cover too.

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Re: Batman

Postby GoogaMooga » 08 Oct 2019, 02:52

I got this by mistake::

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