Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

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Chuck or Joni?

a) Berry
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b) Mitchell.
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Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Diamond Dog » 11 Jun 2018, 18:42

Yeah - so who gets your vote?!
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 11 Jun 2018, 18:44

Chuck!
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby naughty boy » 11 Jun 2018, 18:44

Chuck by about 83 billion miles
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Muskrat » 11 Jun 2018, 18:46

The Venerable B. Eef wrote:Chuck by about 83 billion miles

What he said.
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby The Modernist » 11 Jun 2018, 18:48

Joni of course. Who the hell listens to Chuck Berry in the 21st century?

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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Diamond Dog » 11 Jun 2018, 18:49

This is going to be a doozy, this one.
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby joels344 » 11 Jun 2018, 19:01

Chuck and it’s not even close.
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby toomanyhatz » 11 Jun 2018, 19:38

Joni's great, but she didn't create a template. And no, she didn't create any template for women musicians or songwriters or whatever genre-dependent credit you want to give her. She'd be offended by the very idea, I suspect.
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby WG Kaspar » 11 Jun 2018, 20:02

I guess it would be close on a Joni Mitchell message board.
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Jimbly » 11 Jun 2018, 20:04

hang on while I curl one out.



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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby The Modernist » 11 Jun 2018, 20:20

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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby The Modernist » 11 Jun 2018, 20:22

toomanyhatz wrote:Joni's great, but she didn't create a template.


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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby BARON CORNY DOG » 11 Jun 2018, 20:23

The Modernist wrote:"Riding along in my automobile.." B O R I N G


Isn’t it true, Mr. G., that you have never actually ridden along in your automobile!?
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby BARON CORNY DOG » 11 Jun 2018, 20:24

toomanyhatz wrote:And no, she didn't create any template for women musicians or songwriters or whatever genre-dependent credit you want to give her.


There you go again, setting out things that no one is saying to tear them down. It’s almost like Trump! “Lots of people are saying ...”
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby clive gash » 11 Jun 2018, 20:27

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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Sneelock » 11 Jun 2018, 20:29

sure, it's easy to make the case for Chuck. the black, 30 year old man singing about hot white teenage girls to hot white teenage girls. what's more rock and roll than that?

Still, Joni's initial run of l.p's up to and including "mingus" is quite a goddam body of work. And while 'hatz & Joni herself might not see those she inspired - those she inspired certainly lavish her with praise.

Chuck is as close to a Mount Rushmore that rock and roll has. What did it take to make him become the bitter untrusting man in that Taylor Hackford movie? He got screwed in more ways than one. maybe that's why he seemed to be in in for the simolians from pretty early on. Yeah, his template, his use of showmanship & iambic pentameter - he'll influence people as long as people pick up guitars to show off. Joni will continue to influence people to pick up guitars to express their feelings.

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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Penk! » 11 Jun 2018, 20:31

Chuck was IMPORTANT and SEMINAL and he can be a lot of fun, but other people did rock better later on. Joni offers more.
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Goat Boy » 11 Jun 2018, 20:33

The Modernist wrote:"Riding along in my automobile.." B O R I N G


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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby Sneelock » 11 Jun 2018, 20:36

awesome! promised land is almost as good. hell, a lot of them are DAMNED good.
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Re: Chuck Berry v Joni Mitchell.

Postby clive gash » 11 Jun 2018, 20:38

I’m surprised he didn’t fit Frère Jacques in there.
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