Wings/70s Paul poll

[clive gash]

Someone PM Copehead, there’s a straw man being erected!

[NMB]

6 off that list plus Oh Woman Oh Why, Smile Away, I Lie Around, I've Had Enough.

[Davey the Fat Boy]

You think "Power To The People" is technicolor and not dumb? "Woman Is The Nigger Of The world"? Not dull and grey? Per-leeze.

I think YOU are dull and grey.

Both of the tracks you mentioned are sonically amazing records (especially “Power to the People”). Neither of them is dumb. They may be dated and they may feel naive. But turning “hell on wheels” into “Helen Wheels” is flat out dumb. Anyone past the age of 7 would have to feel a little embarrassed if they were asked to defend that as a song idea. It gets by because of the sound of the record and his performance. But it is stupid at it’s core. There’s nothing there, which is fine...there doesn’t HAVE TO be. But let’s not get over our skis in proclaiming greatness for it.

Again - I have zero issues with anyone preferring Paul’s 70s sonic profile to John’s. It is perfectly valid (and really...it’s the only consistent virtue Paul’s music had in that period). But let’s not shortchange the singularity of John’s sonic landscape during that time. There’s really nothing like it. You can’t simply ascribe it to Spector, as even the stuff John did without him had it AND none of Spector’s records with anyone else sounded quite like his work with John.

More than 40 years after the fact, nothing in rock by anyone else has really sounded quite like 70’s Lennon. Paul’s 70s records were beautiful sounding, but to a certain extent they all sounded like they sprung forth from Abbey Road (with a bit of Let It Be’s off-the-cuff-ness tossed in). John’s records were a complete departure from the Beatles. He created his own sound.

None of that is to say that it was a better sound than what Paul was doing. But it deserves to be respected.

[sloopjohnc]

Wonderful Christmas

I thought I'd be the only one to vote for that.

the rest of mine are pretty much the greatest hits.

Maybe I'm Amazed
Uncle Albert
Live & Let Die
My Love
Jet
Band on the Run
Let Me Roll It
Helen Wheels
Junior's Farm

[Mike Boom]

Maybe Im Amazed
Admiral Halsey
Band on the Run
Jet
Let Me Roll It
Helen Wheels
Juniors Farm
Magneto and Titanium Man
Waterfalls
Coming Up

great/sounding by incredibly stupid songs. And not good-stoopid,but full-on stupid stupid,

Great sounding full on stooooopid rock n roll songs like Magneto and Titanium Man or Helen Wheels or Juniors Farm tend to also be a lot of fun. I believe there's a quote somewhere where McCartney says he found them the hardest to write.

[Brickyard Jack]

Maybe i'm amazed
Mull
Jet
Band
Let em in
Crossroads
Back seat of my car
With a little luck
Goodnight tonight
Bluebird

[Diamond Dog]

You think "Power To The People" is technicolor and not dumb? "Woman Is The Nigger Of The world"? Not dull and grey? Per-leeze.

I think YOU are dull and grey.

Well it's good to see we're doing to stick to talking about the post.

Both of the tracks you mentioned are sonically amazing records (especially “Power to the People”). Neither of them is dumb. They may be dated and they may feel naive.

Both tracks sound like utter shit, recorded on a late 60' cassette player, by a student at the bottom of a well. A well half fell of water. Three miles from the instruments.

And the lyrical sloganeering bullshit is far, far more embarrassing than "Monkberry Moon Delight", for instance. Which is Macca having (open and obvious) fun - something you're not likely to accuse Lennon of on those two slabs of shite, are you?

[Quaco]

You're both wrong.

[clive gash]

[Matt Wilson]

Totally, but both delivered with the utmost conviction!

[clive gash]

Well, that’s one way of putting it I suppose.

[Davey the Fat Boy]

You're both wrong.

So are you!

[Goat Boy]

Some odd posts on this thread

[Davey the Fat Boy]

They make more sense with a piano up your nose.

[toomanyhatz]

I'm on Davey's side here, btw. I'm probably more forgiving of the jock rock that Macca indulged in at times, and less of a fan of Double Fantasy, but I can't manage to put together ten songs from a similar era that come even close to equaling Shaved Fish. And no, it's not perfect. But everything on it is either great or nervy as hell. For all his "feel over skill" ethos he damn well knew how to make records. And for all Paul's superior ability, he sure half-assed it a lot of the time. Paul was better at polishing a turd, but he sure laid more of them out in the first place.

[toomanyhatz]

Anyway, my other seven:

Singalong Junk (better without the lyrics)
Another Day
Heart of the Country (good Roger Miller imitation!)
Live and Let Die (in large part thanks to George Martin)
Bluebird
You Gave Me the Answer
With a Little Luck

[naughty boy]

You Gave Me The Answer!!

[sloopjohnc]

:lol:

Totally, but both delivered with the utmost conviction!

The Eddie the Eagles of music criticism.

[NMB]

You Gave Me The Answer!!

His worst song of the 70s? The period pastiche stuff was vaguely amusing with When I’m 64. But then he did it again with Your Mother Should Know, and then Honey Pie, and then You Gave Me The Answer. Give it a rest Paul!

[Davey the Fat Boy]

You Gave Me The Answer!!

His worst song of the 70s? The period pastiche stuff was vaguely amusing with When I’m 64. But then he did it again with Your Mother Should Know, and then Honey Pie, and then You Gave Me The Answer. Give it a rest Paul!

Nah. He’s great at it. More!