BCB Top 100 TV Shows - And the winner is...

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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby martha » 04 Apr 2018, 09:59

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martha wrote:My prediction is Simpsons, Fawlty Towers, Father Ted, Monty Python and the IT Crowd.

The IT Crowd was #63...so, just a tad off... :D


WTF!! LOL. That's so weird. I didnt write "the IT Crowd." in there at all! I said "my prediction is Simpsons, Fawlty Towers, Father Ted, Monty Python and... "

I left it at four. I had no guess for the final title. That's so weird.
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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby martha » 04 Apr 2018, 10:03

Phew! Lol. I was freaking out for a second. I thought I was going crazy or that someone had edited my post or hacked my account.

I'm moving and packing house at the moment and my computer is packed so I was using my "smart" phone to connect to BCB tonight.

Earlier I was texting and talking to the spouse about DVDs and had sent him a list of the contents of a box so he could add it to our spreadsheet, but before I sent it I realized that I couldn't get the lid to close flat on it so I went in and pulled out a DVD and packed it into another box to make it work. It was the IT Crowd. I then copied and cut out the words "the IT Crowd." from the list.

Then later when I posted here my phone Auto corrected "Monty Python and..." to Monty Python and the Holy Grail, so I highlighted the holy Grail and entered a period to replace it... But instead of overwriting it with a period I must have pasted in "the IT Crowd." from my clipboard instead.

Whew. For a minute there I was in a panic thinking I'd been hacked or I was losing my marbles.
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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby never/ever » 04 Apr 2018, 10:11

Rambling rose, indeed! :lol:
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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby Goat Boy » 04 Apr 2018, 20:54

K wrote:
toomanyhatz wrote:1) It's still better than most shows, particularly of its type
2) I get laughs - at least a few - every episode.
3) The list of shows at a high level for 9 years is incredibly small.

1. I'm not comparing it to shows of its type. I don't really like most of the imitators.
2. I watched a couple of episodes from series 13 the other day. Not one laugh. Not one. Can you imagine that happening in series 6, for example?
3. 9 years is generous. I'd actually say series 3 to 7 were the classics.


I would say season 2 to 9 is the golden age. Season 9 is where the decline begins perhaps (hello Mike Scully) but there's still enough great episodes (Joy of Sect is a personal fave) to include it in the shows Golden Age I think.

That stretch is genius though. I still watch old episodes and laugh out loud despite having seen them so many times. They still glitter and that's rare with comedy you know?

I would like somebody to put together a greatest hits of the post Golden Age years. My general impression is that from around season 10 onwards things went awry but I've seen newer episodes over the years that I felt were very good. Not as great as the shows peak years perhaps but still worthy.
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Postby ever/never » 04 Apr 2018, 21:01

I just watched an X Files pisstake (season 9?) and laughed my little socks off the whole way through.

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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby the masked man » 04 Apr 2018, 21:23

Goat Boy wrote:I would say season 2 to 9 is the golden age. Season 9 is where the decline begins perhaps (hello Mike Scully) but there's still enough great episodes (Joy of Sect is a personal fave) to include it in the shows Golden Age I think.

That stretch is genius though. I still watch old episodes and laugh out loud despite having seen them so many times. They still glitter and that's rare with comedy you know?

I would like somebody to put together a greatest hits of the post Golden Age years. My general impression is that from around season 10 onwards things went awry but I've seen newer episodes over the years that I felt were very good. Not as great as the shows peak years perhaps but still worthy.


I dunno, I only got Sky towards the end of season 8, and I thought it was at that point that the show started to suck. That season went downhill badly though was initially quite strong, I thought. And season 9 was mostly rotten, particularly The Principal And The Pauper (just all wrong conceptually, the shark was repeatedly jumped at that point). A couple of episodes pass muster - Natural Born Kissers was cute and had actual belly laughs - but when I watched the older episodes that Sky was helpfully showing, they all seemed so much fresher. I know the bar was high, but late season eight and all of season nine mostly fell dismally short.

But I do understand that the show seems to have made a significant improvement in recent series. Though I've mostly lost the taste for new episodes, I did catch an episode from a few years ago that contained a beautifully-made tribute to Studio Ghibli animation. That was really well done. Maybe it's getting good again.

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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby Goat Boy » 04 Apr 2018, 21:41

The Principal and The Pauper was a mistake and that's been admitted. I can understand why it's viewed as a shark jumping moment but there's some really good episodes that season (Lisa the Sceptic, Miracle on Evergreen Terrace, Trouble with Trillions). Season 8 was great! Mr Sparkle! Wonderful stuff.
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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby Dayodead » 04 Apr 2018, 22:33

For The Simpsons, always felt after Season 10, they should have cut the episode order down to 15 (Seasons 11-20) and 12 (Seasons 21+)...Might have kept things fresher...In seasons 11-20, you can find 10 good episodes per season...Later seasons, it's a bit spottier..Either that or after Season 12 or so, let the characters age, thereby opening up more unique story lines...Every few season could equal a year or age..(Something Family Guy should have done long ago)

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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby watts » 05 Apr 2018, 08:09

never/ever wrote:Rambling rose, indeed! :lol:


Well I was running a fever and very tired. I can't always be scintillating. Honestly though my issues with my smart phone aside, I do think the IT crowd could come back in a surprise run to take the top five even though it already placed earlier in the list. It's that fucking funny. It's a fine show as far as geek humor goes. Beats the ever loving shit out of Big Bang Theory.
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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby Samoan » 05 Apr 2018, 08:34

This* will come in at Nummer Ett.

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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby Darkness_Fish » 05 Apr 2018, 09:06

I find it really odd that people are talking about The Simpsons in terms of series, or golden ages, or what not. I've always just thought of it as one of those shows that's always on somewhere, and if you're bored, you might switch over to it. Some are good, some aren't, but a timeline does not exist in my fractured, enfeebled mind.
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Postby Penk! » 05 Apr 2018, 09:12

So... just the two left to reveal now...
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Postby Powehi » 05 Apr 2018, 09:53

Quaco wrote:It wasn't always intended that way. George Markstein was co-creator, and he definitely saw it as a (trippy, visually interesting) spy series with Number 6 a continuation of John Drake. Needless to say, he and McGoohan began to disagree as the show went on, and by the end, Markstein had left and McGoohan wrapped it up the way he wanted to.


George Markstein is also the nameless government functionary behind the desk who P McG confronts in the credits at the start of the show.

Having read a few biogs of the man and books on the show, I'm not sure if I'd agree that McG wrapped everything up in the way he wanted to though.

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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby Neige » 05 Apr 2018, 10:24

watts wrote: I do think the IT Crowd (...) beats the ever loving shit out of Big Bang Theory.


Word. :P
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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby Powehi » 05 Apr 2018, 10:43

Neige wrote:
watts wrote: I do think the IT Crowd (...) beats the ever loving shit out of Big Bang Theory.


Word. :P


I'll see your IT Crowd and raise you Silicon Valley, the latest season of which starts on Sky in the UK this very evening

Never much cared for that BBT/Friends/Frazier school of sitcom where writers are hired by the yard to bang
out an endless stream of supposedly thigh-slapping liners. Bit too American for my tastes

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Postby never/ever » 05 Apr 2018, 11:10

Darkness_Fish wrote:I find it really odd that people are talking about The Simpsons in terms of series, or golden ages, or what not. I've always just thought of it as one of those shows that's always on somewhere, and if you're bored, you might switch over to it. Some are good, some aren't, but a timeline does not exist in my fractured, enfeebled mind.



The way TV treated The Simpsons here down under was the reason why I clocked off... It was daily on at 6pm at Channel 10 who had the exclusive rights for broadcast... the way they showed new episodes and then managed to show repeats for weeks on end just made me switch to something different after a while.
I liked it a lot in the beginning and I'm sure I would have followed it through had it not been for the endless repeats.
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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - 95 down, 5 to go

Postby The Red Heifer » 05 Apr 2018, 11:22

never/ever wrote:
Darkness_Fish wrote:I find it really odd that people are talking about The Simpsons in terms of series, or golden ages, or what not. I've always just thought of it as one of those shows that's always on somewhere, and if you're bored, you might switch over to it. Some are good, some aren't, but a timeline does not exist in my fractured, enfeebled mind.



The way TV treated The Simpsons here down under was the reason why I clocked off... It was daily on at 6pm at Channel 10 who had the exclusive rights for broadcast... the way they showed new episodes and then managed to show repeats for weeks on end just made me switch to something different after a while.
I liked it a lot in the beginning and I'm sure I would have followed it through had it not been for the endless repeats.


Whereas I basically stopped watching Channel 10 because for a long time The Simpsons at 6pm was my drug :lol:

And even now I watch it on Fox every chance I get. I guess I'm just one of those obsessive types.
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Postby never/ever » 05 Apr 2018, 11:36

The Red Heifer wrote:
Whereas I basically stopped watching Channel 10 because for a long time The Simpsons at 6pm was my drug :lol:

And even now I watch it on Fox every chance I get. I guess I'm just one of those obsessive types.


:P

Well, we only had four channels and two of them had the news on...so it was either Simpsons or whatever Auntie ABC was dishing up at the time...
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Postby The Modernist » 05 Apr 2018, 13:42

Darkness_Fish wrote:I find it really odd that people are talking about The Simpsons in terms of series, or golden ages, or what not. I've always just thought of it as one of those shows that's always on somewhere, and if you're bored, you might switch over to it. Some are good, some aren't, but a timeline does not exist in my fractured, enfeebled mind.


Same here. I've never quite got the lavish praise.

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Re: BCB Top 100 TV Shows - Results!

Postby The Modernist » 05 Apr 2018, 13:47

PENK wrote:5

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Twin Peaks (USA, 1990-1991, 2017)
Created by: David Lynch, Mark Frost
Starring: Kyle MacLachlan, Sherilyn Fenn, Michael Ontkean
Mystery drama mixing elements of comedy, soap opera, police procedural and supernatural horror as FBI agent Dale Cooper (MacLachlan) investigates the murder of a prom queen in a small town on the Canadian border. The show was cancelled after network interference in its underwhelming second series, but returned 25 years later for a darker third series in which the supernatural elements were more prominent.
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Bollocks - I fully intended to vote for this and thought I had. I was going to award it a lot of points too. I just checked the list I sent Penk and see I've forgotten to include it. :evil: