On July 26, 2016, after WikiLeaks disseminated the D.N.C. e-mails, Steele filed yet another memo, this time claiming that the Kremlin was “behind” the hacking, which was part of a Russian cyber war against Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Many of the details seemed far-fetched: Steele’s sources claimed that the digital attack involved agents “within the Democratic Party structure itself,” as well as Russian émigrés in the U.S. and “associated offensive cyber operators.”
Jimbo wrote:"Far fetched," I should say so! Was Seth Rich working for the Russians? It says in the New Yorker article the hack "involved agents “within the Democratic Party structure itself …”"On July 26, 2016, after WikiLeaks disseminated the D.N.C. e-mails, Steele filed yet another memo, this time claiming that the Kremlin was “behind” the hacking, which was part of a Russian cyber war against Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Many of the details seemed far-fetched: Steele’s sources claimed that the digital attack involved agents “within the Democratic Party structure itself,” as well as Russian émigrés in the U.S. and “associated offensive cyber operators.”
GoogaMooga wrote: The further away from home you go, the greater the risk of getting stuck there.
Jimbo wrote:I guess I am over Graham Nash's politics. Hopelessly naive by the standards I've molded for myself these days.
GoogaMooga wrote: The further away from home you go, the greater the risk of getting stuck there.
Snarfyguy wrote:I swear, a day doesn't go by without the craziest, most fucked up shit coming to light.
What Happened in Moscow: The Inside Story of How Trump’s Obsession With Putin Began
What could possibly explain Trump’s unwavering sympathy for the Russian strongman? His refusal to acknowledge Putin’s repressive tactics, his whitewashing of Putin’s abuses in Ukraine and Syria, his dismissal of the murders of Putin’s critics, his blind eye to Putin’s cyberattacks and disinformation campaigns aimed at subverting Western democracies?
sound like anybody you know?Sneelock wrote:What could possibly explain Trump’s unwavering sympathy for the Russian strongman? His refusal to acknowledge Putin’s repressive tactics, his whitewashing of Putin’s abuses in Ukraine and Syria, his dismissal of the murders of Putin’s critics, his blind eye to Putin’s cyberattacks and disinformation campaigns aimed at subverting Western democracies?
Jimbo wrote:I call bullshit. How can Corn and Issakof wheel out the Putins "abuses" in Ukraine and Syria as if it is a settled and natural fact. Undeniably there was some Russian involvement in these events, but abuses? As journalists they fail because there are legitimate counter-narratives to those scenarios but the authors fail to even give a nod in that direction.
GoogaMooga wrote: The further away from home you go, the greater the risk of getting stuck there.
Jimbo wrote:Sneelock wrote:What could possibly explain Trump’s unwavering sympathy for the Russian strongman? His refusal to acknowledge Putin’s repressive tactics, his whitewashing of Putin’s abuses in Ukraine and Syria, his dismissal of the murders of Putin’s critics, his blind eye to Putin’s cyberattacks and disinformation campaigns aimed at subverting Western democracies?
I call bullshit. How can Corn and Issakof wheel out the Putins "abuses" in Ukraine and Syria as if it is a settled and natural fact. Undeniably there was some Russian involvement in these events, but abuses? As journalists they fail because there are legitimate counter-narratives to those scenarios but the authors fail to even give a nod in that direction, i.e., "Some journalists say A (link) but given Putins abuses …" Nor do they mention the US's role. Have the authors never even glanced at Consortium News where Parry made mincemeat of the mainstream narrative? And it wasn't Parry who hipped me to the Ukraine lie. It was Le Show, Harry Shearer who long ago played the tape of Nuland saying "Yats our guy," Shearer made me a Ukraine skeptic. I tried to read the article but this part stopped me in my tracks and I had to come here and vent.
PS I went back to the link and there are lots of words but not a link nor a Twitter screenshot to validate the words. Trump is a scummy guy but these guys are pimping a book, cashing in on the Fire and Fury tail wind and I can't wait to see them and their unprofessional behavior trashed by professionals.
Snarfyguy wrote:
Human Rights Watch world report on Russia, 2017 (including "abuses" in Syria and Ukraine): https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/c ... ers/russia
.Russia continued to support rebels who commit abuses in eastern Ukraine. Russia’s actions in occupied Crimea created a human rights crisis
WIKIA controversial Crimea-wide referendum, unconstitutional under the Ukrainian and Crimean constitutions,[3][4][5] was held on the issue of reunification with Russia which, according to official results, indicated that a large majority of Crimeans wished to join with Russia
Financier and philanthropist George Soros of the Open Society Foundation announced in 2010 his intention to grant US $100 million to HRW over a period of ten years to help it expand its efforts internationally.
But he's the guy who bankrolls these "color revolutions" - he bankrolled the Maidan revolt. BTW, maybe wrong here, but were the Ukraine citizens allowed to vote for this new government?
Sneelock wrote:Boy, it’s a good thing nobody’s getting rich off the war machine in Russia!
Jimbo wrote:Sneelock wrote:Boy, it’s a good thing nobody’s getting rich off the war machine in Russia!
