Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

in reality, all of this has been a total load of old bollocks

Keep the monarchy?

Yes - they are personally important to me and must stay.
6
15%
No - they are irrelevant to me and serve no purpose. Give it a year and they won't be missed.
26
65%
Couldn't give a stuff either way.
8
20%
 
Total votes: 40

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 04 Dec 2017, 16:25

The Prof wrote:Calm down!



Sod off Prof!
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 04 Dec 2017, 16:26

^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Goat Boy » 04 Dec 2017, 16:29

Why are you so angry, DD?
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby The Prof » 04 Dec 2017, 16:30

Diamond Dog wrote:
The Prof wrote:Calm down!



Sod off Prof!


I'm just thinking about your blood pressure. We don't want you doing yourself a mischief

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Goat Boy » 04 Dec 2017, 16:31

Don't we?
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


Copehead wrote:we have lost touch with anything normal

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 04 Dec 2017, 16:38

:lol:
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby The Prof » 04 Dec 2017, 17:07

Ok •most• people on here have a passing concern for your welfare apart from Goatboy, Solarscrope and undoubtably a few others who will be more than happy for you to die a slow and painful death.

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Goat Boy » 04 Dec 2017, 17:12

Poll it!
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.


Copehead wrote:we have lost touch with anything normal

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 04 Dec 2017, 17:22

I'm being playful. Honestly.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Butch Manly » 04 Dec 2017, 17:24

Are you actually a monarchist, Prof, or just ambivalent and think there are bigger fish to fry?
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Darkness_Fish » 04 Dec 2017, 17:26

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Do you still want ... A Head of State?

Do the monarchists? Should the monarch start taking that role, in a capacity that isn't just ceremonial?
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Thang-y » 04 Dec 2017, 17:42

Darkness_Fish wrote:Do the monarchists [want a head of state]? Should the monarch start taking that role, in a capacity that isn't just ceremonial?


Y're a bunch of tricky bastards.

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby The Modernist » 04 Dec 2017, 18:02

German Dave wrote:Are you actually a monarchist, Prof, or just ambivalent and think there are bigger fish to fry?


He's worried about what would happen to Balmoral.

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby The Prof » 04 Dec 2017, 19:09

German Dave wrote:Are you actually a monarchist, Prof, or just ambivalent and think there are bigger fish to fry?


B.
I'm not a monarchist. I think they are a convenient scapegoat and getting rid of them isn't the tip of an iceberg into bringing equality and justice - it wouldn't be a start either. Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Holland and Japan all have monarchs and they all seem pretty decent places to live.
In the Sunday Times UK Rich list the Queen doesn't even get into the top 300. There's plenty more stuff to get angry about.

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 04 Dec 2017, 20:17

It's not the money.

It's the privilege. The inherent entitlement. The personification of all that - that's what's wrong with the Monarchy.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Toby » 04 Dec 2017, 20:42

But lots of people have privilege of sorts. In fact I would say that there are far wealthier people out there whose children have the life without any sort of responsibility whatsoever.

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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 04 Dec 2017, 20:49

But they don;t get handouts from the State. Or Royal Yachts and all the other bollocks that goes with it.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby The Prof » 04 Dec 2017, 21:14

Beckham's kid leads a privileged life trading on his surname. So do lots of other people. I get it, - it's not fair.
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby Diamond Dog » 04 Dec 2017, 21:16

The Prof wrote:Beckham's kid leads a privileged life trading on his surname. So do lots of other people. I get it, - it's not fair.
£1 billion pounds has been given away in some VAT loophole to owners of private jets in an Isle of Man tax dodge.What is Lewis Hamilton's contribution to society? He drives cars around in a circle.


But it's not enshrined in law.

Can you not see the difference?
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Re: Monarchy the institution. Yes or no?

Postby The Prof » 04 Dec 2017, 21:19

Is it your .67p you're worried about?