Diamond Dog wrote:That's interesting that you say you aren't speaking for Skope or Gash... yet link it to a post I made specifically about those two. Can you think of a way where "I wouldn't dream of speaking for Gash or Skope" may appear somewhat more likely, Ray... you know, like not quoting me talking specifically about those two, in your response?
Well, it was your bringing up of the conspiracy theory about the PMs and skope that prompted me to point out that I, at least, did nothing to promulgate it, even though I expressed my disappointment about skope's being 'hounded off the board'. I quoted you not because my remarks were aimed at you but because it gave me an opportunity to do that: I'm just (as usual) over-explaining my viewpoint and my conclusions (which may well be 'wrong') because I do have a morbid concern with not being misunderstood.
Diamond Dog wrote:As for the rest of your supposition about how you saw it... well that's interesting too. You say that mine & K's response was because we had been goaded into action by Skope... and then make the leap that that meant we (and two other unnamed posters) were 'teaming up' to respond to Adam (even in posts where he wasn't being nasty & provocative - how sweet of him). With absolutely no proof of that at all. And then say "no conspiracy, no complaints involved"..... doesn't four posters 'teaming up' sound like a conspiracy to you, then? And are you honestly saying that no one suggested there were complaints made about Adam - or is that just you not talking for anyone else again Ray?
well, first off, no, four posters 'teaming up' does not suggest a conspiracy to me at all. 'Conspiracy' suggests a plan, people acting in concert with an aim in view. I don't think that's what happened at all, and tried to make that clear. Failed again
As for the rest of it, Adam pissed a lot of people off, and was very provocative, presumably because he enjoyed a bit of flaming. I've never liked that. He had a go at me more than once, but I sorted out things with him in PMs. With you and K, though, it escalated far beyond that, got very personal and unpleasant on both sides (I did ask him in a PM why he did that, but he never satisfactorily explained it to me). Of course there's no 'proof' - what is this, a trial? – of what I'm saying, I'm just (as usual) over-explaining my viewpoint and my conclusions (which may well be 'wrong') because I do have a morbid concern with not being misunderstood. What I wrote in this thread is how it seemed to me to be then.
Of course, I read several posts where people seemed to be suggesting there were complaints about Adam by PM, but to the best of my remembrance, I wasn't one of them. As usual, that is me not talking for anyone else – it's a key part of who I am on these boards that I only really talk about myself and how I see things .
Apologies for any misunderstandings – I really would like to get back to the usual bollocks rather than rehearsing this stuff
All best
Ray