John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

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John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby naughty boy » 24 Jun 2017, 13:15

Matt 'interesting' Wilson wrote:So I went from looking at the "I'm a Man" riff, to showing how the rave up was popular for awhile.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Diamond Dog » 24 Jun 2017, 13:19

:lol:
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby clive gash » 24 Jun 2017, 13:20

Beautiful stuff. Another 70s Madeleine.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby naughty boy » 24 Jun 2017, 13:25

It's exquisite, isn't it?
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Loki » 24 Jun 2017, 14:31

Diamond Dog wrote::lol:

The song, or John's avatar?
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby fange » 24 Jun 2017, 15:22

Oh man, Cetera's voice ... :evil:

Musically there's a lot there that in other contexts I would be more than happy to enjoy, but PC's voice is a major deal breaker.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Charlie O. » 24 Jun 2017, 15:44

fange wrote:Oh man, Cetera's voice ... :evil:

Musically there's a lot there that in other contexts I would be more than happy to enjoy, but PC's voice is a major deal breaker.

I know exactly where you're coming from, but... here's a rare example of it working for me.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Mike Boom » 24 Jun 2017, 15:47

There are a lot of great 70's hits from Chicago that I love, this is not one of them, its absolute 24 Karat Shit

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Bent Fabric » 24 Jun 2017, 16:10

Hit all the way.

I've always considered it their/his "Michelle".

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Ranking Ted » 24 Jun 2017, 16:11

Probably one of the easiest yet. Lightning in a bottle as it shouldn't really be my bag, but it is.

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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby BARON CORNY DOG » 24 Jun 2017, 16:22

I like it much better than "Eye of the Tiger," and I didn't call THAT shit.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby The Red Heifer » 25 Jun 2017, 01:15

It was the start of something shit but my word what a song. Hit!
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Diamond Dog » 25 Jun 2017, 17:20

Loki wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote::lol:

The song, or John's avatar?


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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Darkness_Fish » 25 Jun 2017, 20:43

I'm going to surprise everyone here, by declaring this to be absolute drivel, an utterly wretched excuse for a damp fart.

No John, it isn't Clock DVA, is it? (pre-emptive passive-aggressiveness required).
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby teenageriot-1 » 25 Jun 2017, 21:19

HIT. A classic.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby toomanyhatz » 25 Jun 2017, 23:05

Beginning of the Cetera takeover though it may be (which I guess is what BK is getting at), it's certainly inoffensive, particularly compared how that particular benchmark would soon go. Easily hit, though it might have made one wary at the time.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby The Modernist » 26 Jun 2017, 10:07

Charlie O. wrote:
fange wrote:Oh man, Cetera's voice ... :evil:

Musically there's a lot there that in other contexts I would be more than happy to enjoy, but PC's voice is a major deal breaker.

I know exactly where you're coming from, HIT


I don't. It just sounds like a "normal" good voice to me, it's not like he's singing like Geddy Lee or something. Can't see why it would be a deal breaker.
I've always loved the record (albeit it probably took a few years to be honest enough to admit that to myself). It's a genius arrangement, like Bacharach at his best.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby fange » 26 Jun 2017, 11:56

The Modernist wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:
fange wrote:Oh man, Cetera's voice ... :evil:

Musically there's a lot there that in other contexts I would be more than happy to enjoy, but PC's voice is a major deal breaker.

I know exactly where you're coming from, HIT


I don't. It just sounds like a "normal" good voice to me, it's not like he's singing like Geddy Lee or something. Can't see why it would be a deal breaker.
I've always loved the record (albeit it probably took a few years to be honest enough to admit that to myself). It's a genius arrangement, like Bacharach at his best.
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I really really don't like his voice; it's that simple.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Charlie O. » 26 Jun 2017, 16:08

fange wrote:
The Modernist wrote:
Charlie O. wrote:I know exactly where you're coming from

I don't. It just sounds like a "normal" good voice to me, it's not like he's singing like Geddy Lee or something. Can't see why it would be a deal breaker.

I really really don't like his voice; it's that simple.

While I like a number of (early) Chicago records that Cetera sang lead on, it's usually in spite of his singing, and I don't think it's ever because of it.

It's hard to say exactly how much of that revulsion is a reaction to the actual physical properties of his voice and how much is down to what he does with it, but it's surely mostly the latter. There's a certain homely whiter-than-white guy who imagines he's being really soulful and sexy (and maybe even funky sometimes) thing coming off him. If you could genetically engineer an MOR big ballad singer, you'd probably come up with a Peter Cetera.

His Ooooh!s - not the Ooooo-oooo-oooooohs in "IYLMN" which are part of the melody, but his ad-libbed Ooooh!s in other songs (and he does that a lot) - sound like Les Nessman from WKRP In Cincinnati getting goosed.
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Re: John Coan's SHIT OR HIT 15

Postby Charlie O. » 26 Jun 2017, 16:13

He was a helluva bass player, though.
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