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It's not as if parliament is going to shoot it down. Brexit is happening but as a parliamentary democracy procedure has to be followed
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Clive Lewis 'threatens rebellion' after Corbyn imposes 3-line whip on article 50 bill
"Jeremy Corbyn will impose a three-line whip on MPs to vote in favour of triggering Article 50 when the bill comes before parliament next week, after a tense shadow cabinet meeting, the Guardian understands.
Shadow cabinet ministers are understood to have opposed the move, with others argue for a free vote on the issue given the difference of opinion in the party. Senior figures warned there may be resignations from the front bench.
One source suggested that shadow business secretary Clive Lewis said he would vote against the bill, and could even campaign against it. It is not clear if he would be able to remain a member of the shadow cabinet, and the Guardian has not managed to contact Lewis since the meeting"
It never rains but........
I like Clive Lewis and I thought the 3 line whip thing had been debunked as not the truth.
More resignations? Great!
"Jeremy Corbyn will impose a three-line whip on MPs to vote in favour of triggering Article 50 when the bill comes before parliament next week, after a tense shadow cabinet meeting, the Guardian understands.
Shadow cabinet ministers are understood to have opposed the move, with others argue for a free vote on the issue given the difference of opinion in the party. Senior figures warned there may be resignations from the front bench.
One source suggested that shadow business secretary Clive Lewis said he would vote against the bill, and could even campaign against it. It is not clear if he would be able to remain a member of the shadow cabinet, and the Guardian has not managed to contact Lewis since the meeting"
It never rains but........
I like Clive Lewis and I thought the 3 line whip thing had been debunked as not the truth.
More resignations? Great!
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Corbyn lives in his own bubble. Nothing surprises me anymore.
Corbyn gaffe over injured police officer
25 January 2017 Last updated at 18:35 GMT
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has apologised after he told the House of Commons a police officer injured in a Belfast shooting on Sunday had died.
The officer is in a stable condition in hospital after the attack by a dissident republican group known as the 'new IRA'.
During Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday, the Labour leader passed on the sympathies of "the whole House" for the "police officer who lost his life".
North Belfast MP Nigel Dodds later described Mr Corbyn's gaffe as "one of the worst displays of crass ignorance that could be imagined".
It is understood Mr Corbyn has written a letter to the Chief Constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland to apologise for his error.
A spokesman for the Labour leader said: "He meant to say 'nearly died'", adding that Mr Corbyn "had not intended to cause offence".
Corbyn gaffe over injured police officer
25 January 2017 Last updated at 18:35 GMT
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has apologised after he told the House of Commons a police officer injured in a Belfast shooting on Sunday had died.
The officer is in a stable condition in hospital after the attack by a dissident republican group known as the 'new IRA'.
During Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday, the Labour leader passed on the sympathies of "the whole House" for the "police officer who lost his life".
North Belfast MP Nigel Dodds later described Mr Corbyn's gaffe as "one of the worst displays of crass ignorance that could be imagined".
It is understood Mr Corbyn has written a letter to the Chief Constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland to apologise for his error.
A spokesman for the Labour leader said: "He meant to say 'nearly died'", adding that Mr Corbyn "had not intended to cause offence".
Nonsense to the aggressiveness, I've seen more aggression on the my little pony message board......I mean I was told.
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Deviation!
The topic is about Brexit.
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Samoan wrote:
A spokesman for the Labour leader said: "He meant to say 'nearly died'", adding that Mr Corbyn "had not intended to cause offence".[/i]
Why would you offer sympathies to someone who nearly died? "I'm so sorry you are still alive"
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Samoan wrote:
North Belfast MP Nigel Dodds later described Mr Corbyn's gaffe as "one of the worst displays of crass ignorance that could be imagined".
If that's one of the worst displays of crass ignorance he's got no imagination, knowledge of real life (work in a shop or library to gain real experience of crass ignorance) or indeed heard the news.
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Geezee wrote:Samoan wrote:
A spokesman for the Labour leader said: "He meant to say 'nearly died'", adding that Mr Corbyn "had not intended to cause offence".[/i]
Why would you offer sympathies to someone who nearly died? "I'm so sorry you are still alive"
An apology isn't the same as sympathy. It means you feel for somebody. Why not have sympathy for someone who was violently assaulted and almost killed doing his public duty? And why would you offer sympathy to someone who was dead? Under those circumstances you offer it family and loved ones.
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North Belfast MP Nigel Dodds later described Mr Corbyn's gaffe as "one of the worst displays of crass ignorance that could be imagined".
He hasn't got much imagination then, I suppose he is a religious bigot and right wing extremist, that can't help.
Sending condolences to the family you wrongly heard had died, terrible stuff.
Fake news I suppose so much easier to play the man rather than the ball.
Having said that he is wrong to whip the article 50 vote, that should be left to individual MPs, many represent constituencies that voted firmly to remain.
I'd ignore him and vote with my constituents and that would undermine his tenuous authority in the PLP, they often seem to do what they think is ideologically right rather than what is politically expedient.
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Possibly cartoon of the millennium from Steve Bell after this Gilray:
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Copehead wrote:Possibly cartoon of the millenia from Steve Bell after this Gilray:
I love the way SB has perfectly captured Britain's role in the last 70-odd years of the "Special Relationship" by subtly changing TM's position from that of the woman in Gilray's original
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Copehead wrote:North Belfast MP Nigel Dodds later described Mr Corbyn's gaffe as "one of the worst displays of crass ignorance that could be imagined".
He hasn't got much imagination then, I suppose he is a religious bigot and right wing extremist, that can't help.
Sending condolences to the family you wrongly heard had died, terrible stuff.
Fake news I suppose so much easier to play the man rather than the ball.
Having said that he is wrong to whip the article 50 vote, that should be left to individual MPs, many represent constituencies that voted firmly to remain.
I'd ignore him and vote with my constituents and that would undermine his tenuous authority in the PLP, they often seem to do what they think is ideologically right rather than what is politically expedient.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/25/jeremy-corbyn-criticised-for-northern-ireland-dead-police-officer-gaffe-pmqs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38738481
Nonsense to the aggressiveness, I've seen more aggression on the my little pony message board......I mean I was told.
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Rayge wrote:Geezee wrote:Samoan wrote:
A spokesman for the Labour leader said: "He meant to say 'nearly died'", adding that Mr Corbyn "had not intended to cause offence".[/i]
Why would you offer sympathies to someone who nearly died? "I'm so sorry you are still alive"
An apology isn't the same as sympathy. It means you feel for somebody. Why not have sympathy for someone who was violently assaulted and almost killed doing his public duty? And why would you offer sympathy to someone who was dead? Under those circumstances you offer it family and loved ones.
It was a joke - but I would also say 90% of the time when a politician is expressing their sympathies it is when people have died. If it is about people who are injured, the standard phrasing is "my thoughts (or prayers - likely not relevant in this case) are with them".
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Geezee wrote:It was a joke
Sorry
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He is apparently France's version of Tony Blair, but he does have a point:
“Britain lived in an equilibrium with Europe,” Emmanuel Macron told France Culture radio. “But now it is becoming a vassal state, meaning it is becoming the junior partner of the United States.”
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Deebank wrote:He is apparently France's version of Tony Blair, but he does have a point:“Britain lived in an equilibrium with Europe,” Emmanuel Macron told France Culture radio. “But now it is becoming a vassal state, meaning it is becoming the junior partner of the United States.”
A little early on for that kind of shit isn't it?
Why should we behave in an adult manner , if the europeans are going to be such petulant children.
Absolutely pathetic.
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yomptepi wrote:Deebank wrote:He is apparently France's version of Tony Blair, but he does have a point:“Britain lived in an equilibrium with Europe,” Emmanuel Macron told France Culture radio. “But now it is becoming a vassal state, meaning it is becoming the junior partner of the United States.”
A little early on for that kind of shit isn't it?
Why should we behave in an adult manner , if the europeans are going to be such petulant children.
Absolutely pathetic.
I think he has a point. Your Mrs May is bending over and dropping her Y-fronts even as we speak!
I mean Jesus fucking Christ... "Opposites attract"
I feel physically sick.
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He has more than a point - in fact he has the tense wrong. Britain is not 'becoming', Britain has been little more than a vassal state since at least Mr Eden's premiership. Every UK PM genuflects toward the American president. Mrs May is just the latest in a long line of PMs who will 'be with you whatever'.
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Moleskin wrote:He has more than a point - in fact he has the tense wrong. Britain is not 'becoming', Britain has been little more than a vassal state since at least Mr Eden's premiership. Every UK PM genuflects toward the American president. Mrs May is just the latest in a long line of PMs who will 'be with you whatever'.
While I accept the general point, and push it back to the imposition of the Marshall Plan, tbf, Wilson, and indeed Heath, did not allow us to get drawn into the Vitenam War.
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May has had a hell of a week. First Trump and now Erdogan. Jumping into bed with two human rights abusers in the space of a few days. Britain really is becoming "great" again!
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And then this today :
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Considering she herself was only talking to him two days ago............
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Considering she herself was only talking to him two days ago............
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