Thesiger wrote:sloopjohnc wrote:The Brits love Scott Walker.
Many of us can't see any merit in the guy.
You love him - you just don't know it yet.
Thesiger wrote:sloopjohnc wrote:The Brits love Scott Walker.
Many of us can't see any merit in the guy.
mantochanga wrote:Eli and the Thirteenth Confession is a better starting point than NYT.
That album is a tour de force, an inspirational demonstration of genius and talent. And fun to boot.
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.
Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism
Dizzley tha Fat Boy wrote:I think we can settle the question of which artist was more original pretty easily.
What artists would you point to as precedents for Nyro? Then do the same for Walker.
Hint: It is a lot easier for one of them than the other.
mantochanga wrote:
Nyro - it's Ethel Merman on crystal meth!
Dizzley tha Fat Boy wrote:I think we can settle the question of which artist was more original pretty easily.
What artists would you point to as precedents for Nyro? Then do the same for Walker.
Hint: It is a lot easier for one of them than the other.
sloopjohnc wrote:Scott Walker = atheism
Laura Nyro = spirituality
The G Experience! wrote:sloopjohnc wrote:Scott Walker = atheism
Laura Nyro = spirituality
Meaningless.
The G Experience! wrote:Dizzley tha Fat Boy wrote:I think we can settle the question of which artist was more original pretty easily.
What artists would you point to as precedents for Nyro? Then do the same for Walker.
Hint: It is a lot easier for one of them than the other.
That's rich coming from someone who constantly says how much YY overvalue originality and innovation in music. That's one of your main themes!
Goat Boy wrote:mantochanga wrote:Eli and the Thirteenth Confession is a better starting point than NYT.
That album is a tour de force, an inspirational demonstration of genius and talent. And fun to boot.
I think the songs on Eli are slightly harder to digest than those on NYT. The latter is a bit smoother and hangs together better as an album imo.
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.
Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism
mantochanga wrote:Goat Boy wrote:mantochanga wrote:Eli and the Thirteenth Confession is a better starting point than NYT.
That album is a tour de force, an inspirational demonstration of genius and talent. And fun to boot.
I think the songs on Eli are slightly harder to digest than those on NYT. The latter is a bit smoother and hangs together better as an album imo.
I respect your point of view, and you may be right, most of my Nyro-lovin' friends would agree with you. But when I want to prove to friends that Laura Nyro is one of the most talented people ever to walk into a recording studio, I play them Timer. Every single line of that song is a new idea, and it really swings.
You picked out NYT's key tracks earlier, and of these I'd single out Captain For Dark Mornings. That's absolutely undeniable too.
For the sake of balance, Such A Small Love, Montague Terrace, and Angels of Ashes absolutely slay me too. I voted Nyro, but I don't like to see the genius who came up with these timeless gems get put down.
Next up: Gary Leeds and The Rain vs Goldie and the Gingerbreads
Griff wrote:The notion that Jeremy Corbyn, a lifelong vocal proponent of antisemitism, would stand in front of an antisemitic mural and commend it is utterly preposterous.
Copehead wrote:a right wing cretin like Berger....bleating about racism
Sir John Coan wrote:Nolamike is speaking nothing but sense here.
Loki wrote:Mike is Hookfinger's shill.
Nolamike wrote:I really like Scott Walker's first four, and I actually like his more recent avant garde output as well, whereas Nyro never really grabbed ahold of my ears. But this thread inspired me to whip out my copy of New York Tendaberry, and I gotta say, for the first time, it's really hitting the spot (especially the second side), and its making me want to check out more (I've also got a copy of Eli, so that's next). Thanks BCB!
It's kinda depressing for a music forum to be proud of not knowing musicians.
The Modernist wrote:I'm not sure I'd agree Nyro is "very natural" either. When I bought New York Tendaberry all those years ago, one of the things I was expecting was a certain natural soulfulness because I'd read about her in those terms. I was slightly nonplussed therefore to hear what appeared to be these strident and hammy show tunes. There was something histrionic about the whole thing.
I could never get into the album at all and at the time I really tried. I've not really been back to her since.
In a way I'd have preferred this thread to just be about her as I'm burned out trying to defend Walker on here these days, but I am still open to the idea of Laura Nyro. I wonder if I just started with the wrong album.
Davey the Fat Boy wrote:Meanwhile the list of artists who have acknowledged her influence includes the likes of Elton John, Joni Mitchell (who never admits to being influenced by anyone not black and 20 years older), Todd Rundgren, Elvis Costello, Rickie Lee Jones and Steely Dan.
Diamond Dog wrote:...it quite clearly hit the target with you and your nonce...
...a multitude of innuendo and hearsay...
...I'm producing facts here...