The English and God
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The English and God
Since the thread about America has devolved into therapy for Duncan, I thought I'd ask a question that keeps gnawing away at me.
It is pretty obvious that the folks on the board most dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about religion are from the UK. There are exceptions, but for the most part I think the pattern is clear. So given this...what is it that the church of England has done to you? If it is true that UK politics and cultural life are relatively free of religion - at least as compared to the US, why are you so much angrier about it?
It is pretty obvious that the folks on the board most dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about religion are from the UK. There are exceptions, but for the most part I think the pattern is clear. So given this...what is it that the church of England has done to you? If it is true that UK politics and cultural life are relatively free of religion - at least as compared to the US, why are you so much angrier about it?
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What about the Scottish? or the Welsh? or the Irish?
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I've often wondered the same.
Though just for the record, I believe Duncan (aka Wilson) is actually Canadian.
Though just for the record, I believe Duncan (aka Wilson) is actually Canadian.
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Belle Lettre wrote:What about the Scottish? or the Welsh? or the Irish?
Inconsequential. None of those people have any thoughts worth considering.
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toomanyhatz wrote:I've often wondered the same.
Though just for the record, I believe Duncan (aka Wilson) is actually Canadian.
That would explain a lot.
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Zionists make me angry. Does that count?
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Why not ask why they're dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about everything else, why just God?
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Matt Wilson wrote:Why not ask why they're dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about everything else, why just God?
Because we can!
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Belle Lettre wrote:Zionists make me angry. Does that count?
Well at least I understand that POV. But that does not seem to be an argument against religion itself. If the majority of Palestinians are Muslim, how do you feel about their religion?
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Matt Wilson wrote:Why not ask why they're dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about everything else, why just God?
We like David Bowie though.
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Davey Avon FatBoy wrote:Since the thread about America has devolved into therapy for Duncan, I thought I'd ask a question that keeps gnawing away at me.
It is pretty obvious that the folks on the board most dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about religion are from the UK. There are exceptions, but for the most part I think the pattern is clear. So given this...what is it that the church of England has done to you? If it is true that UK politics and cultural life are relatively free of religion - at least as compared to the US, why are you so much angrier about it?
I don't think we are necessarilly. On this board at least it's more of a science v religion thing.
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TopCat G wrote:Matt Wilson wrote:Why not ask why they're dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about everything else, why just God?
We like David Bowie though.
Don't think we've forgotten.
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Davey Avon FatBoy wrote:Belle Lettre wrote:Zionists make me angry. Does that count?
Well at least I understand that POV. But that does not seem to be an argument against religion itself. If the majority of Palestinians are Muslim, how do you feel about their religion?
Fucking livid.
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wait a minute. i like david bowie, and i'm not even from canada.
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TopCat G wrote:Davey Avon FatBoy wrote:Since the thread about America has devolved into therapy for Duncan, I thought I'd ask a question that keeps gnawing away at me.
It is pretty obvious that the folks on the board most dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about religion are from the UK. There are exceptions, but for the most part I think the pattern is clear. So given this...what is it that the church of England has done to you? If it is true that UK politics and cultural life are relatively free of religion - at least as compared to the US, why are you so much angrier about it?
I don't think we are necessarilly. On this board at least it's more of a science v religion thing.
I see it more as a sense vs nonsense thing.
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TopCat G wrote:Davey Avon FatBoy wrote:Since the thread about America has devolved into therapy for Duncan, I thought I'd ask a question that keeps gnawing away at me.
It is pretty obvious that the folks on the board most dismissive (and really outright vitriolic) about religion are from the UK. There are exceptions, but for the most part I think the pattern is clear. So given this...what is it that the church of England has done to you? If it is true that UK politics and cultural life are relatively free of religion - at least as compared to the US, why are you so much angrier about it?
I don't think we are necessarilly. On this board at least it's more of a science v religion thing.
That is just how it always plays out because science is the tool that the board's Atheist brigade chooses to try and wield in order to nullify religion. There is no anti-science constituency here.
But you don't see a strong UK streak of religious anger here? I could certainly be wrong, as i don't even know for sure who lives where, but it seems to be the case. But even if you extend it beyond BCB you've got Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins making a kind of cottage industry of religious anger (I've no idea where Sam Harris is from) . So my question to you is...why? Weren't you the one who said on the other thread that the UK is a lot less involved in religion overall? If so, what is the impetus for the likes of Richard Dawkins?
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Belle Lettre wrote:Davey Avon FatBoy wrote:Belle Lettre wrote:Zionists make me angry. Does that count?
Well at least I understand that POV. But that does not seem to be an argument against religion itself. If the majority of Palestinians are Muslim, how do you feel about their religion?
Fucking livid.
Fair enough. But not because of Zionism I assume.
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Because their espousal of religion obscures their natural claim to justice. But we derail.
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Well you had Tony Blair putting a lot of money into faith schools, Islamic fundamentalism becoming more visible, to some degree these are responses to these things..but generally I agree it's a bit strange how atheism has suddenly become a big talking point.
I've known a few christians as friends but I'm pretty uncomfortable with it if I'm honest although I try not to offend them or anything. I don't think I could go out with someone who was heavily involved with the church.
I've known a few christians as friends but I'm pretty uncomfortable with it if I'm honest although I try not to offend them or anything. I don't think I could go out with someone who was heavily involved with the church.
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Dawkins disagrees with religion and he's angry? Bollocks, he's too fucking polite if anything.
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