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Postby Diamond Dog » 20 Jan 2005, 06:14

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cheepniz wrote:Without charisma, rock and roll would have never begun.


Elvis had charisma?


He oozed it. That shy southern boy thing. COME AWN!


Yeah, I know Moot - I was being facetious.

In fact, there is an arguement that (away from music) he had no charisma at all. Worth debating?
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Postby moot. » 20 Jan 2005, 06:20

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cheepniz wrote:Without charisma, rock and roll would have never begun.


Elvis had charisma?


He oozed it. That shy southern boy thing. COME AWN!


Yeah, I know Moot - I was being facetious.

In fact, there is an arguement that (away from music) he had no charisma at all. Worth debating?


Perhaps...I can't say I've met him, or spoken to anyone who has. But, to what extent does a performer's off-stage persona/behavior determine how much you like the artist?

For example, from what I've heard Kevin Barnes of Of Montreal is quite an asshole...I have to admit it did make me like his band slightly less. On the other hand R. Kelly pees on underage girls, but some of his singles still rock the planet.
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Postby moot. » 20 Jan 2005, 06:28

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cheepniz wrote:Without charisma, rock and roll would have never begun.


Elvis had charisma?


He oozed it. That shy southern boy thing. COME AWN!


Yeah, I know Moot - I was being facetious.

In fact, there is an arguement that (away from music) he had no charisma at all. Worth debating?


Interesting. The consensus seems to be that he was a very genuine, likeable and guileless person. Extending that to mean that in everyday life his 'charisma' was put on hold, do we get 'aloofness' as a partial definition of 'charisma'?


For musicians, probably. I prefer musicians to be more soft-spoken...a lot of people think Conor Oberst is very charasmatic, whereas I think he's embarassingly childish and quite irritating. I still like his records, but I think the overly wordy charisma isn't as good in music as it is for say an author, or an actor or something.
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Postby Guest » 22 Jan 2005, 07:53

Holy shit. I just read this thread and it was Stooopid.

R Kelly pees on little girls but it has nothing to do with his music. And it doesn't enhance it. It doesn't detract from it (unless you worry about such technicalities).

Rock and roll was built on charisma and the bad boy image.

Keith Richards looks and sounds like a drug addled whore and it enhances the music. It wouldn't have been as great if he looked like Buddy Holly or Ned Beatty.

A performer's personality is only relevant if it has anything to do with what he is creating.

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it's all illusion....

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Postby The Write Profile » 22 Jan 2005, 08:24

nathan wrote:Holy shit. I just read this thread and it was Stooopid.

R Kelly pees on little girls but it has nothing to do with his music. And it doesn't enhance it. It doesn't detract from it (unless you worry about such technicalities).

Rock and roll was built on charisma and the bad boy image.

Keith Richards looks and sounds like a drug addled whore and it enhances the music. It wouldn't have been as great if he looked like Buddy Holly or Ned Beatty.

A performer's personality is only relevant if it has anything to do with what he is creating.


Absoloutely True. Still, a lot of people are still inclined to obsess about what might "inspire" them to write the songs that they do. What was the name of the crazed "Dylan" garbologist who decided to search through his waste to determine how he gets his ideas?

Obviously, it's an extreme example, but in a lot of cases, if there's a bit of an enigma going on (that is to say, you don't quite know where he/she is coming from), it might make them somehow more magnetic. I quite like the quote (I can't remember who said it) about how as soon as Keef plugs in his guitar, he's 22 again (I'm sure someone will make some silly remark about how he doesn't look 22 again).
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Postby Diamond Dog » 05 May 2006, 07:00

Is Wongo still alive?
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Postby atomic loonybin » 05 May 2006, 13:53

Diamond Dog wrote:Is Wongo still alive?


Depends on your definition. One post today.

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Postby Diamond Dog » 05 May 2006, 14:11

ALB wrote:
Diamond Dog wrote:Is Wongo still alive?


Depends on your definition. One post today.

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Postby JQW » 05 May 2006, 15:05

Diamond Dog wrote:
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Diamond Dog wrote:Is Wongo still alive?


Depends on your definition. One post today.

http://micheljl.free.fr/Wongo/index.php ... f643f4357d


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Postby Diamond Dog » 05 May 2006, 19:08

So who's the lead singer of The Turds?
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Diamond Dog wrote:So who's the lead singer of The Turds?


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Postby atomic loonybin » 06 May 2006, 10:54

I don't login, but I can still see the threads. I never registered there after Ced accused me of being one of THE GUILTY MEN. Which I wasn't, the arse.

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Postby The Slider » 21 May 2006, 12:36

Is this really what caused Ced to leave?

I'd not read this thread before.

That Cup of Char fellow really was the most ignorant dullard that has ever come across the BCB radar, wasn't he?
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Postby Diamond Dog » 21 May 2006, 12:50

The Slider wrote:Is this really what caused Ced to leave?

I'd not read this thread before.

That Cup of Char fellow really was the most ignorant dullard that has ever come across the BCB radar, wasn't he?


Indeed. Horrid litle turd.

Apparently this was the battlefield from which Ced flounced, yes. Sad, isn't it?




















No, not really. :lol:
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Postby LeBaron » 21 May 2006, 20:06

I miss Cédric.
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Postby Diamond Dog » 22 May 2006, 17:22

That Good Ol' Baron wrote:I miss Cédric.


I bet he doesn't miss us.
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