I WAS wrong about: UK '70s

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Postby The Modernist » 24 Dec 2004, 10:30

The thing tha6t interestes me here is Pieter has access to all these records that he supposedly dislikes or is mildly antipathetic to. What happens here Pieter? Do you have the worlds largest record collection? How on earth are you managing to hear all these records? Did you go out and buy them, even though you didn't think you'd like them? It's all very mysterious.

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Postby The Black Shadow » 24 Dec 2004, 10:34

IlModernista wrote:The thing tha6t interestes me here is Pieter has access to all these records that he supposedly dislikes or is mildly antipathetic to. What happens here Pieter? Do you have the worlds largest record collection? How on earth are you managing to hear all these records? Did you go out and buy them, even though you didn't think you'd like them? It's all very mysterious.


Pieter Spoon has about every record in the world.
His collection is so vast, that when he wants to play a record, he looks for it for two hours, then gives up and goes out to buy it again.
He used to have a dog, but the animal has been missing for two months, and the "D"-section of his collection is beginning to smell bad.
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Postby Brother Spoon » 24 Dec 2004, 10:35

IlModernista wrote:The thing tha6t interestes me here is Pieter has access to all these records that he supposedly dislikes or is mildly antipathetic to. What happens here Pieter? Do you have the worlds largest record collection? How on earth are you managing to hear all these records? Did you go out and buy them, even though you didn't think you'd like them? It's all very mysterious.


I'm just making it all up. :roll:

Of the 64 albums nominated so far, I have about half.
The rest (will) come from the local library, friends and more than likely some coughing later on.

I am going to listen to them all. Honest.

So how about nominating something. Or would you care to discuss one of the records I've listened to so far?

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Postby Nikki Gradual » 24 Dec 2004, 10:38

I'll nominate this (just about squeezes into the 1970s)...

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Postby Brother Spoon » 24 Dec 2004, 11:07

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I'm not ashamed to say I am a fan of all of the first five albums Paul McCartney made after the Beatles ('Wild Life' and 'Red rose speedway' included). But perhaps this one is indeed the pick of the bunch. Fluff never sounded as good as this before or after.
I can never decide which is my favorite track, but then 'Back seat of my track' comes on and it all becomes much clearer. As a vocal performance alone up there with anything he did in the Beatles. That scream at 3'45 gets me every single time.

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It is now on its second spin, but I still don't know what to say.
If for nothing else, this thread will have been worth it for discovering this one. It's truly a singular vision and I can see this becoming a big favorite for me. Thank you, andymacandy.
(I am also looking forward to the other Roy Harper nomination 'Bullinamingvase'.)

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Postby Brother Spoon » 24 Dec 2004, 11:20

Black Shadow hate you wrote:
He used to have a dog, but the animal has been missing for two months, and the "D"-section of his collection is beginning to smell bad.
:D


Of course, I put him under D for dog. Now I remember. :shock: :D

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Postby Brother Spoon » 24 Dec 2004, 12:52

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Lo and behold, I was suffering from a headache and Rod Stewart cured what ailed me. The miraculous qualities of this record are indeed hard to overestimate. :D

This is my last "review" for a while, as I won't be here much next week, but I'll keep listening and resurrect this thread in a short while.

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Postby Cédric » 24 Dec 2004, 12:58

Something XMas Pieter wrote:Image

Lo and behold, I was suffering from a headache and Rod Stewart cured what ailed me. The miraculous qualities of this record are indeed hard to overestimate. :D

This is my last "review" for a while, as I won't be here much next week, but I'll keep listening and resurrect this thread in a short while.


Have a good Christmas, Pieter. I think that we can say that you're ending the year with a top discovery. It's such a great album...
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Postby Brother Spoon » 24 Dec 2004, 13:01

Cédric wrote:
Something XMas Pieter wrote:Image

Lo and behold, I was suffering from a headache and Rod Stewart cured what ailed me. The miraculous qualities of this record are indeed hard to overestimate. :D

This is my last "review" for a while, as I won't be here much next week, but I'll keep listening and resurrect this thread in a short while.


Have a good Christmas, Pieter. I think that we can say that you're ending the year with a top discovery. It's such a great album...


Merry Christmas to you as well, Cédric. See you soon.

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Postby Velvis » 24 Dec 2004, 13:58

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Plus Ram, Electric Warrior and St. Dominic's Preview and you have my favorite U.K. albums of the seventies. I make no apologies for Elton John and ELO. Always liked 'em, always will.
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Postby Velvis » 24 Dec 2004, 14:02

Oh, and--

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Throw Zep IV and Houses of the Holy in there too. Didn't like 'em then but I like 'em now.
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Postby Beno » 24 Dec 2004, 23:46

Cédric wrote:
Something XMas Pieter wrote:Image

Lo and behold, I was suffering from a headache and Rod Stewart cured what ailed me. The miraculous qualities of this record are indeed hard to overestimate. :D

This is my last "review" for a while, as I won't be here much next week, but I'll keep listening and resurrect this thread in a short while.


Have a good Christmas, Pieter. I think that we can say that you're ending the year with a top discovery. It's such a great album...


It's great to see plaudits for this album, a long time favourite of mine. It really does have everything.

'Gasoline Alley' and 'Never A Dull Moment' are also greaty albums but don't quite reach the stratospheric heights of 'EPTAS'. Because of all the baggage his image carries people forget just how good Rod was in his early solo years.

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Postby The Slider » 25 Dec 2004, 00:15

Nikki 'humbug' Gradual wrote: I am pretty much convinced that the '70s was just about the best decade in British music. So much talent and wild variety, so many great albums. It was of course a dreadful decade for pop music, but that is an entirely different matter.


You are joking, aren't you?
I'll grant you the first couple of years were a bit directionless, but by the end of 71 with the advent of glam it hit a rich rich vein. There was then the rise of disco - before it became formulaic and still relied on songs - the whole punk and new wave scene and the beginnings of modern synth pop too.
Only the 60's has the edge as far as I can see.
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Postby Brother Spoon » 25 Dec 2004, 13:21

Oh what the hell, i'm here now anyway.

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It's been a long time since I played Nick Drake and it still sounds good. But this is not from the '70s. :?

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When I first heard this, a long time ago, it was my favorite record and I played it non-stop for ages. This may surprise some of you since I don't speak so kindly of David Bowie anymore, but it is true. My (relative)dismissal of his work is not based on principle, but rather on loving his work only to come back to it later and being disappointed that it does not live up to its promise.

To me 'Ziggy Stardust' is perhaps the most perfect pop album ever recorded. Unlike a lot of people though, I don't think creating a perfect pop album is necessarily the best idea to do within music. It certainly requires inspiration, but also and perhaps far more studious effort to crack the code of the pop formula, far more patience to lay down the perfect instrumental and vocal tracks, etc. Perfection in this context has a lot to do with knowing how to control every aspect of the creative process. Within that perspective I can think of a number of other artists who could have done the same thing*, but they didn't and Bowie did.

That is obviously what he set out to do, so I don't have any right to criticise him for it. It's just that in shaping my own set of esthetic criteria, I've held onto to what Ray Davies wrote in the sleevenotes to 'Something Else', that perfection gets boring after a short while. And this is exactly my problem with this album. In achieving something more than human it ends up something less than human. It doesn't seem to breathe.
I am trying to change my opinion of this record now, but really to like it more I would need someone not to tell me how good it is, but rather that it is not perfect after all.

*You could say that the Beatles as a unit were ready to do this after 'Abbey Road' which is certainly their most controlled record. This is then the only reason I'm glad they split up when they did and went on to make sometimes great sometimes horrible but always flawed albums.


I also gave these two a first spin but I have to try them again. I can't say anything coherent about them at all yet.

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Postby The Slider » 25 Dec 2004, 13:23

Something XMas Pieter wrote:
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It's been a long time since I played Nick Drake and it still sounds good. But this is not from the '70s. :?


Play Bryter Later instead then - it is a better album anyway.
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Postby The Black Shadow » 25 Dec 2004, 14:36

The Sleighder wrote:
Something XMas Pieter wrote:
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It's been a long time since I played Nick Drake and it still sounds good. But this is not from the '70s. :?


Play Bryter Later instead then - it is a better album anyway.


I couldn't pick a favourite from the two, they're too different (within Drake's catalogue), but BL is obligatory stuff for any music fan IMO.
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Postby Brother Spoon » 26 Dec 2004, 11:29

OK, I've added those and at 73 nominations I'm going to stop the vote-in now. I'd like to get to the '80s somewhere in 2005.

So far it's sounding much better than anticipated. I'm even beginning to warm to Peter Gabriel's voice.

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Postby Cédric » 26 Dec 2004, 14:15

Something XMas Pieter wrote:I'm even beginning to warm to Peter Gabriel's voice.


Oh la, you've gone too far, Pieter ! I think that you should go back to where you were initially...
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Postby sandy » 27 Dec 2004, 09:17

neverKnoëls wrote:
Something XMas Pieter wrote: I also gave these two a first spin but I have to try them again. I can't say anything coherent about them at all yet.

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I was about to reply to this by a sarky remark, in the 'Easy, one of them is great and the Genesis one is shite' vein.

But then, in the spirit of the thread, I decided to give Genesis a spin. So I have just heard 'The Battle of Epping Forest', which is the only track from this album available at Neverknows Mansions.

Right.

So, regarding those two albums, my opinion is now:
'Easy, one of them is great and the people responsible for the Genesis one will one day have to answer for their crimes'.

:P


XTC were a great band, but I wouldn’t put them in the same class as Genesis: no, not by a long way. The Battle Of Epping Forest, is easily the weakest song on Selling England By The Pound. I don’t imagine it will make any difference to your personal feelings about Genesis, but if you really wanted to hear the best of that album, you should try Forth Of Fifth, or Cinema Show. Funnily enough, I remember seeing The Sex Pistols on a television pop game show once and they had to guess the intro to the first song from Selling England, which was Dancing With The Moonlight Knight. Their reaction was very similar to yours and they gave the song a good kicking: that didn’t prevent Genesis from being a far better band than The Sex Pistols however.

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Postby Brother Spoon » 27 Dec 2004, 12:34

I can't stay away... :-) (And I'm quite pleased this thread is still on the first page.)

I didn't do anything yesterday but listen to Secret Santa discs and nominations from this thread, so it was a day well spent.

All up there in the pantheon of my favorite records (granted it's a big pantheon):
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