Piper At The Gates Of Dawn (moved from Yakety Yak)

Backslapping time. Well done us. We are fantastic.

Now really....

Singularly amazing, untouchable, etc.
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68%
Irredeemable dogshit
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2%
Neither of the above - it's ok if you like that sort of thing
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30%
 
Total votes: 63

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Postby king feeb » 24 Sep 2004, 22:52

bhoywonder wrote:Pretentious crap. Music made by people who loved LSD for people who loved LSD. It's crap. I checked.


WRONG!
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Postby bhoywonder » 24 Sep 2004, 22:58

king feeb wrote:
bhoywonder wrote:Pretentious crap. Music made by people who loved LSD for people who loved LSD. It's crap. I checked.


WRONG!


yeah yeah, well done with the big font and use of colour. shouting loudest doesn't make you right though, nor does it make an embarassing record good. Piper is a joke. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to ghave a serious word with themself. One of the worst records made by anyone ever.

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Postby Quaco » 24 Sep 2004, 22:58

Cool it, Feeb. Besides, any experiment is bound to have at least a 2% margin of error.
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Postby Nikki Gradual » 24 Sep 2004, 23:02

bhoywonder wrote: shouting loudest doesn't make you right though


No, being right makes him right. Leave Syd alone I tells ya.
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Postby king feeb » 24 Sep 2004, 23:03

Mr. Jim wrote:Cool it, Feeb. Besides, any experiment is bound to have at least a 2% margin of error.


Big emphasis on "error" here.
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Postby bhoywonder » 24 Sep 2004, 23:07

Nikki Gradual wrote:
bhoywonder wrote: shouting loudest doesn't make you right though


No, being right makes him right. Leave Syd alone I tells ya.


As you know, I love Syd. It's just the rest of them that spoil thi srecord. yo uthink it's going ok, then some twat has suggested somne stupid pretentious acid shift, and they all go, cause it'll be fuckin cosfuckinmic, and it isn't, it's just crap. Take a shed load of acid, nearly go mad, and you'll see I'm right. It's fucking shite.

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Postby Nikki Gradual » 24 Sep 2004, 23:15

bhoywonder wrote: cosfuckinmic .


I think the 'word of the year' judges need look no further. Funnily enough, I know exactly what he means.
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Postby bhoywonder » 24 Sep 2004, 23:16

Nikki Gradual wrote:
bhoywonder wrote: cosfuckinmic .


I think the 'word of the year' judges need look no further. Funnily enough, I know exactly what he means.


cock is close.

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Postby Quaco » 24 Sep 2004, 23:32

The importance of acid to the creation of this record imay be overestimated. I've heard that the Floyd were pretty straight when they were making this, though they may have been dabbling in things around this time. Syd's swift acid-induced decline came after this was recorded.

To me, it doesn't sound like the work of drug-takers. It may be enjoyable to listeners who are on it, but the playing and the ideas all sound relatively straight and "67" to me.
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Postby king feeb » 24 Sep 2004, 23:45

Mr. Jim wrote:The importance of acid to the creation of this record imay be overestimated. I've heard that the Floyd were pretty straight when they were making this, though they may have been dabbling in things around this time. Syd's swift acid-induced decline came after this was recorded.

To me, it doesn't sound like the work of drug-takers. It may be enjoyable to listeners who are on it, but the playing and the ideas all sound relatively straight and "67" to me.


That's actually historically correct, Jim. Good point.

However, many great albums have been made on ergot-derivatives like LSD, mescaline et al. They are almost always a lot stranger than Piper: the first two Thirteenth Floor Elevators albums, Red Krayola's Parable of Arable Land, Funkadelic's Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow, Amon Duul II's Yeti... to name just a few that I have read were recorded while tripping.
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Postby bhoywonder » 24 Sep 2004, 23:57

king feeb wrote:
Mr. Jim wrote:The importance of acid to the creation of this record imay be overestimated. I've heard that the Floyd were pretty straight when they were making this, though they may have been dabbling in things around this time. Syd's swift acid-induced decline came after this was recorded.

To me, it doesn't sound like the work of drug-takers. It may be enjoyable to listeners who are on it, but the playing and the ideas all sound relatively straight and "67" to me.


That's actually historically correct, Jim. Good point.

However, many great albums have been made on ergot-derivatives like LSD, mescaline et al. They are almost always a lot stranger than Piper: the first two Thirteenth Floor Elevators albums, Red Krayola's Parable of Arable Land, Funkadelic's Free Your Mind and Your Ass Will Follow, Amon Duul II's Yeti... to name just a few that I have read were recorded while tripping.


And they weren't any good either.

But it's nbot whether they were recorded under the influence of acid or not that's the point. It;s missing the point of acid, maybe. What it is, to me, is the sound of people who have experienced things through acid but have no way of grounding these experiences. For example, good morning good morning is clearly an acid song, but it's rooted in the real world, if you like. The best thing any drug, and especially acid, can do is to help you understad the world in which you live, to undertsand the nature of your race, your species and your environment. At best, it shows you the possibilities, but you can't explore them conclusively through recreational narcotics, however much fun they can be. So what you need to do wth any drug experience is to figure how you can import the positives into your life ona long-term, reasonable basis. What Piper does, however, is take the posh student approach. the approach which has no grounding in the real world, becuase the real world has never been an issue anyway. It's a bit like Pulp's common people. There are chnges in Piper tha shouldn't be there, that have no reason to exist, that offer nothing othr than a text for people to comment on, a device invented entirely to wow yet without roots. It;s a rubbish record. Just shit.

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Postby Nikki Gradual » 25 Sep 2004, 00:00

bhoywonder wrote: Just shit.


I cannot find an emoticon which represents my reaction to this.
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Postby The Slider » 25 Sep 2004, 00:02

Oh just ignore him.
He can't come to terms with anything that has musical ambition in it.

He likes to listen to elderly gentlemen grunting.
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Postby bhoywonder » 25 Sep 2004, 00:05

Nikki Gradual wrote:
bhoywonder wrote: Just shit.


I cannot find an emoticon which represents my reaction to this.


you mean the smiley tat says 'fuck me, you're so right'? Yeah, it's not in the psnl.

The Slider wrote:Oh just ignore him.
He can't come to terms with anything that has musical ambition in it.

He likes to listen to elderly gentlemen grunting.


:lol:

you're a very funny man, the way you pretend to be a silly ignoramus.

Hope you like your Elvis Costello classical project. bwaaaaaahahahahahaha!!!

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bhoywonder wrote:you're a very funny man, the way you pretend to be a silly ignoramus.


Ah, this evening I defer to the real deal.
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Postby Quaco » 25 Sep 2004, 00:10

Nikki Gradual wrote:
bhoywonder wrote: Just shit.


I cannot find an emoticon which represents my reaction to this.

Maybe you're right about not starting that Barrett thread... At least wait till he isn't pissed.
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Postby bhoywonder » 25 Sep 2004, 00:10

The Slider wrote:He can't come to terms with anything that has musical ambition in it.


That's too funny for words! you mean like the Darkness, or Elvis Costello, or any of the other bladn white shit from the 80s, 90s or whatever gets Jo Whiley off ? You really are a very funny man.

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Postby bhoywonder » 25 Sep 2004, 00:11

Mr. Jim wrote:
Nikki Gradual wrote:
bhoywonder wrote: Just shit.


I cannot find an emoticon which represents my reaction to this.

Maybe you're right about not starting that Barratt thread... At least wait till he isn't pissed.


Barrett's great, it's the tossers he knocked aout withthat were shite.

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Postby Nikki Gradual » 25 Sep 2004, 00:13

bhoywonder wrote: bladn


Bladn races?
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Postby The Slider » 25 Sep 2004, 00:16

bhoywonder wrote:
The Slider wrote:He can't come to terms with anything that has musical ambition in it.


That's too funny for words! you mean like the Darkness, or Elvis Costello, or any of the other bladn white shit from the 80s, 90s or whatever gets Jo Whiley off ? You really are a very funny man.


Hmm, sounds like a raw nerve.
Deaden the pain with some more scrumpy.
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