Zong wrote: if that is your view I find it hard to see what the point of debating the topic at all is.
He just likes arguing.
Zong wrote: if that is your view I find it hard to see what the point of debating the topic at all is.
dang65 wrote:OK, what do you actually want from us, the large majority of people in this country who don't go to church, don't watch Songs Of Praise, don't open the door to JWs, don't care either way about your obsession with religion or your Da Vinci Code-style paranoia about its supposed power of evil?
To make the religious people leave us alone, all we have to do is not go to church and not watch Songs Of Praise. What can we do to make you ranting atheists leave us alone?
Fireplug wrote:Stop clicking on message board threads with 'god' in the title for a start. I'm not outside your house with a fucking loud hailer. Paranoid?
dang65 wrote:To make the religious people leave us alone, all we have to do is not go to church and not watch Songs Of Praise.
The Dríver wrote:We even have village idiots.
the hanging monkey wrote:dang65 wrote:To make the religious people leave us alone, all we have to do is not go to church and not watch Songs Of Praise.
If only that were true.
The Dríver wrote:We even have village idiots.
the hanging monkey wrote:You've already been given a list of the negative effects religion has on us all.
A few people moaning on the internet doesn't really compare, does it?
Fireplug wrote:When there are no more state-sponsored religions, when there are no more tax exemptions or special rules for religious organisations, when there is no more evangelism, when there is no more religious representation in political assemblies, when there is no more political lobbying from religious groups, when there is no more religion-derived persecution of minorities, when there are no more religion-inspired wars, when global religions finally become what some of the theists on here seem to want them to be -- purely personal matters perhaps shared with others in self-financed churches -- when all that happens, the atheists should shut up.
Charles Darwin was buried in Westminster Abbey, with absolutely no objection from the Church whatsoever.
Qube wrote:There are a few things I want to pick up on but I did want to reply to this specific point while I had time.Charles Darwin was buried in Westminster Abbey, with absolutely no objection from the Church whatsoever.
Darwin didn't even want to be buried at Westminster Abbey, he wanted to be buried in his hometown. The church tried to claim Darwin as one of their own after his theories could no longer be ignored, he was treated rather poorly until that point and there have been rather distasteful accounts (since discredited) that he had a bedside conversion on his deathbed. While he was celebrated by the church shortly after his death, his funeral (if I remember correctly) was not attended by many associated with the church. It took them 150 years to apologise for not understanding his theory...
dang65 wrote:You're expending your energy against an 'enemy' which doesn't even exist. And my main point is that you seem to be going about that mighty task by fucking whining in my lughole!
The Dríver wrote:We even have village idiots.
the hanging monkey wrote:dang65 wrote:You're expending your energy against an 'enemy' which doesn't even exist. And my main point is that you seem to be going about that mighty task by fucking whining in my lughole!
Nice rant, but I expend my energy in railing against lots of other things too.
Zong wrote:Davey Avon FatBoy wrote:That paragraph is vague...
I think my irony meter has just exploded.
Unless of course you can tell us how come us lunatic atheists must define further, what appears to me to be an utterly crystal clear paragraph from Fireplug, whereas you seem to be continuosly shifting the goalposts of premiership level vaguery by declaring elsewhere that the religious don't have to define what the concept of God means to them before we're aloud to debate it.
Using this tactic you can change definitons at will to show we just "don't get it" anytime someone anhialates one of your points with logic. Without requiring evidence you are free to make it up as you go along.
And of course you are free to even declare it is alright to use special pleading when it comes to religion but if that is your view I find it hard to see what the point of debating the topic at all is.
Footy wrote:
The Who / Jimi Hendrix Experience Saville Theatre, London Jan '67
. Got Jimi's autograph after the show and went on to see him several times that year
Harvey K-Tel wrote:Do you cunts actually listen to this stuff for pleasure??! Holy fucking shit. I fell asleep (honestly) while I was listening to A, but anything, even a sleepy fart, is better than B.