Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby pcqgod » 29 Apr 2015, 17:04

Interesting. I've had the debut for years but keep wondering what I should try next.
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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby sloopjohnc » 29 Apr 2015, 17:26

Fonz wrote:I did the op from my personal perspective; it was never meant to be an exhaustive history of KJ. The benefit from doing it this way is that you get folks like Nev chiming in with their great posts, with that personal touch that sometimes gets missed.

The first 4 albums are great. I like all of them, and there are some real stand out tracks, but I came to them after the event, so to speak. Hearing others' first hand perspectives from the early eighties might give a fuller appreciation of the excitement that this band aroused.

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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby der nister » 30 Apr 2015, 13:18

neville harp wrote:

I think the warpaint and the tribal stomps re-ignited my inner Antperson, it was said that a lot of the original Antz hardcore jumped ship to KJ when Adam hit the big time. Requiem could easily be "Whip In My Valise"'s evil twin.



yikes, no! Maybe in the UK, but definitely not in the US, really two different crowds.
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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby Minnie the Minx » 30 Apr 2015, 13:23

der nister wrote:
neville harp wrote:

I think the warpaint and the tribal stomps re-ignited my inner Antperson, it was said that a lot of the original Antz hardcore jumped ship to KJ when Adam hit the big time. Requiem could easily be "Whip In My Valise"'s evil twin.



yikes, no! Maybe in the UK, but definitely not in the US, really two different crowds.


I'm very surprised that you seem to be knowledgeable about anything original Antz hardcore related. But I'm prepared to be pleasantly surprised. Do go on!
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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby 'skope » 30 Apr 2015, 13:55

that'll be the last we see of gav seepage on this thread :lol:

i'm pretty sure that many of the original adam and the ants fans started to go to early 'sex gang children' gigs when he went all 'kings of the wild frontier'.

anyway, back to killing joke, one of my favourite punk bands. i saw them on the 'what's THIS for...!' and 'revelations' tours. i love the first three albums but lost interest in them after that.


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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby Belle Lettre » 30 Apr 2015, 16:06

The B-side of my 10" of Follow the Leaders.
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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby Fonz » 30 Apr 2015, 17:41

I remember those 10"s well; I had FTL and Ha! on 10". Until my sister flogged them for beer money when I went to Uni.
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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby Minnie the Minx » 30 Apr 2015, 18:06

Fonz wrote:I remember those 10"s well; I had FTL and Ha! on 10". Until my sister flogged them for beer money when I went to Uni.



Oof!

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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby Minnie the Minx » 30 Apr 2015, 19:11

der nister wrote:
neville harp wrote:

I think the warpaint and the tribal stomps re-ignited my inner Antperson, it was said that a lot of the original Antz hardcore jumped ship to KJ when Adam hit the big time. Requiem could easily be "Whip In My Valise"'s evil twin.



yikes, no! Maybe in the UK, but definitely not in the US, really two different crowds.


So what was the original Antz scene like in the US? Must have been interesting times?
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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby sloopjohnc » 30 Apr 2015, 19:40

Minnie the Minx wrote:
der nister wrote:
neville harp wrote:

I think the warpaint and the tribal stomps re-ignited my inner Antperson, it was said that a lot of the original Antz hardcore jumped ship to KJ when Adam hit the big time. Requiem could easily be "Whip In My Valise"'s evil twin.



yikes, no! Maybe in the UK, but definitely not in the US, really two different crowds.


So what was the original Antz scene like in the US? Must have been interesting times?


? I know you and G have written that Adam and the Ants were definitely considered punk in the UK. In the US, they were primarily a band where fans aped their fashion, not unlike Culture Club or New Romantics. It didn't go beyond that at all. The US is a big place but I think LA kids really only got into it even from that aspect. It didn't migrate to the Bay Area, that's for sure.
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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby Fonz » 30 Apr 2015, 23:16

There was a world of difference, it seemed to me, between the Ants pre- and post-KOTWF.
Pre KingsOTWF they were 'punk'; after, I think with the introduction of that 'Burundi beat' thing it was more about the dressing-up.
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Postby Rayge » 15 Jan 2018, 19:21

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Re: Beyond the 120 - Killing Joke

Postby Darkness_Fish » 15 Jan 2018, 20:48

Easily the band I've seen live more than any other, first time was the original 'reunion' tour when Youth came back into the fold for Pandemonium,
when I was briefly a student in Nottingham. I remember the mate I went with got bored and went home, but I thought it was intense. Jaz dancing around with a little effigy of himself, and an arc-welder sending sparks into the crowd being the low-budget pyrotechnics. The first three albums are all superb, but What's THIS For!... and Revelations both get overlooked in favour of the debut, despite being far superior in my eyes.
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