Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3 *n/e 12- Googamooga 4*

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Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3 *n/e 12- Googamooga 4*

Postby never/ever » 28 Oct 2019, 11:06

A

Alain Stivell - Son Ar Christr





B

Joan Baez - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby C » 28 Oct 2019, 15:29

This is easy.

I am not keen on Joan Baez's prissy voice and I love Stivell.

The track selection is a corker. Rousing stuff

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So, A has it

A has it

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby The Fish » 28 Oct 2019, 19:14

A by default before I'd even played it (it was OK as it happens) but i never really liked Baez, she always seems so po faced and somehow manages to suck all the joy out of folk music. This track in particular I've always hated with a passion. The original is one of the greatest things ever. She can't even get the words right - It's "Stoneman's cavalry" not "so much cavalry" and most unforgiveabl eof all is the way a song of amger is reduced in the chorus to a jolly singalong It's simply horrible.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Corporate whore » 28 Oct 2019, 21:08

Love the Alain Stivell, the harp is great, and so is the song. Breton music is something I need to explore more of really because I always enjoy it when I hear it.
Side note - the tune sounded familiar so I had a peek on Wikipedia - apparently it was recorded by Ray Fisher and Martin Carthy. I kind of knew Ray Fisher as she ran the Bridge folk club in Newcastle when I was a student. Maybe I heard it there?

I don't hold the same distaste for Joan Baez as some people - but there is a special place in hell for people who massacre classics.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Flower » 29 Oct 2019, 00:33

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby toomanyhatz » 29 Oct 2019, 03:45

Finally, an easy one!

I basically agree with everything the Fish says about B, I like some Joanie OK - "Diamonds and Rust" is actually a great song - but everything about this is just wrong, and it's not even one of my favorite Band songs. I resent it being her biggest hit.

I'm hit and miss with Stivell, but the earlier stuff doesn't get as fruity as he'd get. It'd still be A even so, for all the reasons above, but I'm happy to say I'm not at all conflicted about it.
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby never/ever » 29 Oct 2019, 12:02

I recognize A as a Dutch drinking song (Bots- Zeven dagen lang)! Good stuff here!

I'm not a Baez-fan unfortunately.....


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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Purgatory Brite » 29 Oct 2019, 13:13

A


Not 100% keen on A but the Joan Baez cover version is very flawed.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Jumper K » 30 Oct 2019, 20:57

Both awful. A is just an absolute mess.
B by default.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Darkness_Fish » 30 Oct 2019, 21:11

Well, A definitely sounds like some more authentic folky stuff, rabble-rousing with genuine rabble. It's an interesting pick, and a completely new name to me. Knew I should've gone for the obscure choices.

I don't have anything against Joan Baez at all, I don't agree with the criticisms of her voice which have been voiced here. Unfortunately, it's a song I really don't like, and it's all a bit too big budgety and over-egged for me.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Nick Danger » 30 Oct 2019, 23:08

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Hightea » 31 Oct 2019, 02:55

A - like the harp and music but the singer is just okay the merry rousers in the back round are annoying. And you guys all have a problem with Joan and okay with this ? I do like the music so might need to check out other songs.

B- No I didn't pick this nor is it high on my Joan stuff. But I'm a fan of Joan and this is a nice cover.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby trans-chigley express » 31 Oct 2019, 12:02

Easy A

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby GoogaMooga » 01 Nov 2019, 03:11

Can't believe the pure voice of Baez loses to the bullcrap that is A. Okay, so it takes liberties with a classic by The Band, but that is what covers are meant to do. B
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Neige » 01 Nov 2019, 17:28

Baez's one song I'd like to never hear again, pitted against the Breton folk institution in his tender youth.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby Rayge » 01 Nov 2019, 20:43

Can't be dealing with A at all. Horrible racket.

B by default, even though it's not remotely folky, as JB had crossed over into pop by this point. I liked her a lot in the 60s, the austere crystal-smashing soprano that modulated when you least expected it into a very warm lower register.
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby fange » 02 Nov 2019, 00:01

I wish i could like either of these more, but i can't. Both make my head hurt. I may come back .... but i probably won't. Sorry.
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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby echolalia » 02 Nov 2019, 13:40

A is by someone I haven't heard for years.

B is Joan Baez flouncing about in borrowed togs, and not for the first or last time of course.

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Re: Folk Cup 2019 Round 3 Match 3

Postby never/ever » 03 Nov 2019, 09:11

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