Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

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Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby never/ever » 08 Jul 2019, 12:34

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Kraftwerk - Kakteen, Wüste, Sonne







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King Crimson – Starless

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby C » 08 Jul 2019, 15:59

Starless is a beautiful track - I love it but it has been used umpteen times and it is far, far, far, far, far, far too obvious a choice.

The Kraftwerk selection is a corker

'Human' Kraftwerk - basically NEU! with Ralf Hütter I think

An inspired track selection

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby toomanyhatz » 08 Jul 2019, 19:31

I tend to like early Kraftwerk, when they were closer to an ordinary rock band figuring it out as they went along. But there's really not enough happening in A to hold my attention.

B has some thrilling bits and some dull ones, as well as a passage around the 9-minute mark that made me think my man Verlaine must have at least listened to some Crimson. It may be obvious, but not to me as I've gone happily Crimson-free for most of my life. Now I can graze happily at the buffet without stuffing myself.
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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby C » 08 Jul 2019, 19:51

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby joels344 » 08 Jul 2019, 20:01

“Starless” is one of the greatest progressive rock songs in history, off one of the greatest albums in history, and outclasses A here and possibly any track in the cup thus far. That said, it’s far too obvious of a choice and is clearly asking for easy votes here. Meanwhile, A is a pretty daring Kraftwerk pick considering it would’ve been tempting to pick their more synthpop based tracks. It's still Kraftwerk but less obvious. A it is.
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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Purgatory Brite » 08 Jul 2019, 21:35

B - no arguing with the majesty of King Crimson!

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby trans-chigley express » 09 Jul 2019, 14:11

I really don't want to vote for such an obvious pick as Starless but A was disappointing and somewhat tuneless and aimless.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Lord Rother » 09 Jul 2019, 21:36

Kraftwerk playing proper instruments was quite refreshing but it didn’t really do much.

I’m not a KC fan, their stuff is just too hit and miss, and often cacophonous. But when it works it’s pretty damn good.

I guess I’ve only ever heard Starless a double handful of times (max) so am certainly not going to turn it down because to others it’s an obvious pick. Certainly one of the hits for me.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby John aka Josh » 09 Jul 2019, 22:03

While the Kraftwerk was enjoyable, I'm a relative neophyte regarding King Crimson & it's an absolute corker. Another one for the smorgasbord!

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Hightea » 10 Jul 2019, 02:25

Two more gems.

A- Love the instrument version of Kraftwerk. Seen this before. Great gem from the early days.

B- classic prog King Crimson. I'm a huge fan of KC and while I don't consider this their best like others its a top piece.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Jumper K » 10 Jul 2019, 08:08

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Loki » 11 Jul 2019, 07:00

"Starless" shows up every year, innit. It's wonderful of course, but.....

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Neige » 12 Jul 2019, 21:04

Too obvious, lazy pick, etc. etc. etc.







but come on... early Kraftwerk can't possibly win this. :?

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Hightea » 14 Jul 2019, 23:20

Hightea wrote:Two more gems.

A- Love the instrument version of Kraftwerk. Seen this before. Great gem from the early days.

B- classic prog King Crimson. I'm a huge fan of KC and while I don't consider this their best like others its a top piece.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby C » 14 Jul 2019, 23:33

Loki wrote:"Starless" shows up every year, innit. It's wonderful of course, but.....


...and folk keep voting for it Loki










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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Loki » 15 Jul 2019, 09:02

At least it's not DC :)
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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby C » 15 Jul 2019, 09:30

Loki wrote:At least it's not DC :)


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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby Neil Jung » 15 Jul 2019, 22:13

I’ve never heard early Kraftwerk before, it sounds very like Popol Vuh, which can only be a good thing. A bold choice.
I’ve seen KC twice, once on the Discipline tour and much more recently with their three drummers. But as they are generally short on tunes and often employ sub standard singers I’m not much of a fan. This is one of their best tracks. If a little obvious.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Semi-Final Match 3

Postby never/ever » 19 Jul 2019, 11:56

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