Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

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Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby never/ever » 17 Jun 2019, 11:14

A

Slapp Happy – Charlie ‘n Charlie





B

Fred Frith - Laughing Matter / Esperanza

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Carlsson » 17 Jun 2019, 14:00

I am speechless - yes, you've got it - two more Carlsson Corkers [with a Henry Cow connection]...!

I must go and lie down in a darkened room.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Purgatory Brite » 17 Jun 2019, 14:08

Two examples of avant-prog, my least favourite genre of progressive music.


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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Carlsson » 17 Jun 2019, 15:17

The Fred track is phenomenal - absolutely stunning!

I recall that the Frith album has the great Ferdinand Richard on guimbarde (jew's harp)

Melodies by the shedload and full of awesome music.

Charlie n Charlie is a nice poppy track - lots of fun with soem of Faust guesting - Zappi at least.

Dagmar sounds great as usual and there's soem pleasant guitar.

This is very hard

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby joels344 » 17 Jun 2019, 16:17

This is my kinda prog matchup and both tracks are absolute monsters, so this is a difficult vote. I’m guessing B fits my mood today, but tomorrow I’d likely vote A. Excellent stuff.
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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby toomanyhatz » 17 Jun 2019, 19:48

A is not prog. It is an eccentric pop song. And it's short! And it still manages to get plenty of oofness in there.

B is a self-indulgent mess that goes on far too long, though I like the bagpipe bits (of course I do!)
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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Carlsson » 19 Jun 2019, 09:45

Ok, I've deliberated

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby trans-chigley express » 19 Jun 2019, 15:27

B was very restless and had quite a bit going on: some fairground stuff, some novelty moments, a few rockier sections, folky bits, bagpipes....some worked, some didn't and its pick'n'mix approach grew tiresome over 8 minutes. Easily gets the vote though as A was pants.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Loki » 19 Jun 2019, 17:05

I guess

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby John aka Josh » 19 Jun 2019, 20:53

B with an ooof and more cowbell.
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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Carlsson » 19 Jun 2019, 21:22

John aka Josh wrote:B with an ooof and more cowbell.


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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Jumper K » 22 Jun 2019, 18:22

If I was some sort of Cobra I'd be mesmerised by B. Its batshit bobbins though.
A. Although it could have been shorter.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Neige » 23 Jun 2019, 22:40

Not my favourite Slapp Happy track, but I love'em anyway,

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Hightea » 24 Jun 2019, 03:48

A - was okay B is more style.

B


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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby never/ever » 24 Jun 2019, 12:17

With great difficulty

A
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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby algroth » 25 Jun 2019, 19:29

Great match. I'll go ahead and say that I'm always a little bit flummoxed by the reputation Acnalbasac Noom's gained over the years as an "avant-pop"/"avant-prog" record of sorts, mostly because when removing the credits from it, what we have in the album is pretty straightforward, traditional-sounding pop with some cabaret and baroque touches. Sure, the naiveté and poptimist attitude in display here comes with a strong whiff of artschool awareness too, after all you don't fool anyone when it's 1973 and your backing band is *Faust* of all entities; nevertheless, the music here is most striking perhaps in how straightforward and accessible it is, coming from an ensemble of artists who've made a fame for themselves doing things as far removed from accessibility as imagined. As for my thoughts on the record itself otherwise, I think it's wonderful, and this is one of the highlights.

Now, Fred Frith is obviously a known quality for years, but despite that I've never listened to Speechless, so this is new to me. And honestly, it's really magnificent. A maelstrom of all manner of instruments to create a really striking and appealing piece. I'll be checking this out for certain soon.

So I'm guessing B takes this one, but again I love both.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Lord Rother » 26 Jun 2019, 06:55

Hard to place a vote for either of these but I think it’s going to have to be the one that is prog.

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Purgatory Brite » 28 Jun 2019, 10:29

To quote the sage Yomptepi "can Fred Frith even play the guitar?"

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Re: Prog Cup 2019 Round 9 Match 5

Postby Carlsson » 28 Jun 2019, 13:50

Lord Rother wrote:Hard to place a vote for either of these but I think it’s going to have to be the one that is prog.

B


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The lad is a great guitarist and deserves your vote on that alone!

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Postby never/ever » 29 Jun 2019, 07:54

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