80s Cup R5M12 - Dayodead 7-15 Penk

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80s Cup R5M12 - Dayodead 7-15 Penk

Postby Penk! » 18 Feb 2019, 19:50

A

Minimal Man - Two Little Skeletons



B

The Go-Betweens - Bye Bye Pride

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Dayodead » 18 Feb 2019, 19:54

A

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby toomanyhatz » 19 Feb 2019, 16:01

A is a riff with screaming over it. There is probably some point to it that I'm missing. Nah!

B meanders like a typical Go Betweens track, but passes by pleasantly enough.
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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Diamond Dog » 19 Feb 2019, 16:08

Oh my good God.

A for brevity.
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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Purgatory Brite » 19 Feb 2019, 16:40

B Crowded House with indie cred? Good song though.

B is a rather dull sub-Cure effort. Not today thanks.

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby The Modernist » 19 Feb 2019, 19:33

A has quite an ear-catching abrasive and confrontational sound, but it becomes lifeless and dirgey very quickly. It's the kind of thing Killing Joke did much better. They would've brought an elemental energy to the table.
I'm not all that keen on the smooth, major label sound Go-Betweens had in this period which gets dangerously close to someone like Deacon Blue. That said, this is a pretty strong song with the euphoria of the chorus sounding suitably stirring. It probably should've been a hit for them.

B

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Polishgirl » 19 Feb 2019, 19:36

A has more guts and glory.

A
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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Deebank » 19 Feb 2019, 19:44

I think I might have been a big Go-Betweens fan if I'd heard more from them at the time. But I didn't (except for Right Here which was quite nice). It's all very polite.

I read Robert Forster's book last year - great book but it didn't induce me to investigate their stuff.

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Penk! » 21 Feb 2019, 19:07

A was a promising industrial punk grind that never went anywhere; they just got stuck in the intro groove and gave up after two minutes.

It's strange the way BCB moves in cycles: five or ten years ago the Go-Betweens were a "big name" band on here but these days they're a fairly minor concern. It might be the increased American influence on the board: they don't like sensitive and wordy indie, preferring their indie to sound like crotch sweat and petrol. This is from the band's "we want a hit" period and the production is rather too shiny and bland (they always suffered from bad production), but it's got hooks, wit and charm, a good showcase for the strength of their songwriting.

B
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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Darkness_Fish » 21 Feb 2019, 23:09

Blimey, I never knew anyone else picked up on my banging on about Minimal Man. Really the pioneer of US industrial, I like the kind of filthy Chrome sound he gets, all hiss and scuzzed up fuzz. I've only ever managed to pick up two albums, this one and his later Belgian EBM thing Slave Lullabies.It's a slight track, sure enough, but it captures his aesthetic well, making an art of the technical restrictions, much like black metal bands do.

B sounds a shit-load like James. The band. I guess these were first, which must be a crumb of comfort to them, but doesn't excuse them. As generic an indie generic song as you could generically hope to generically hear.

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Jumper K » 22 Feb 2019, 18:39

A.

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby algroth » 23 Feb 2019, 12:20

A, superb stuff!

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby WG Kaspar » 23 Feb 2019, 12:52

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby never/ever » 23 Feb 2019, 23:04

A is like Gary Numan being gang raped by mutoids.


B for me please.
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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby fange » 24 Feb 2019, 14:07

One little no, one big yes.


B
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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Ranking Ted » 24 Feb 2019, 16:41

Seems like BCB is having a moment. Of course it’s B, with room to spare.

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Neige » 24 Feb 2019, 18:18

Musically, I always found the Go-Betweens very uninspiring.

But here, they're a lesser evil.

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby Hightea » 25 Feb 2019, 02:42

B is nice
A is just okay

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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby The Red Heifer » 25 Feb 2019, 07:01

B by about 7 million miles for fucks sake.
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Re: 80s Cup Round 5 Match 12

Postby The Write Profile » 25 Feb 2019, 08:08

It might not be the most moving Go Betweens song- that would be "Dusty in Here", "Cattle & Cane" or "Dive for Your Memory" for me- but it's one of their most likable songs. There's a sense of defiance about this track that I really like, it seems to be about facing up to whatever life throws at you.

B by a major distance.
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