70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2 *DRAW*

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby fange » 10 Dec 2018, 15:10

B is ok, but i wish it was 'Love Comes In Spurts'. A is one of the best off Lodger.



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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Rayge » 10 Dec 2018, 17:28

a - Bowie again. He's made some good pop singles, and one and a half decentish in their day albums, but fuck me he has a limited voice doesn't he (both his singing voice and his authorial voice)? I blame cigs for the first and cocaine for the second. Say no to both, kids. And his entire chameleon career based on clever collaborations and just plain steals. (always thought Ziggy... was copped from Nik Cohn's I Am Still the Greatest, Says Johnny Angelo with a bit of War of the Worlds thrown in). Eno is a better singer. Oh, it's finished. It's a bit pants. 3 / 10
b - Hellboy peaked with his playing on Little Johnny Jewel, at least that 's what we hip kids think, although we admit the possibility of Love Comes in Spurts (ouch) as a kind of subsidiary height, while the really out-there (i.e. literate) ones prefer his books. This may be his most famous, era-defining work, but I have an aversion to naming 'generations', whatever the fuck they are, and even more writing self-promoting songs about them (honourable exception for 'My Generation'), and I didn't really get past the song and yelping (better singer than Pasty Dave, though) back then. However, listening to it now, I am surprised by the quality of the playing and the vocal arrangement, and it sounds fresher than it ever did to these remarkably youthful and actually largely hairless ears 5.5 / 10

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Count Machuki » 10 Dec 2018, 18:16

Rayge wrote:I have an aversion to naming 'generations', whatever the fuck they are, and even more writing self-promoting songs about them (honourable exception for 'My Generation'),


I'll bet you a US dollar that you like the original Beatsploitation track just fine

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Rayge » 10 Dec 2018, 18:29

Count Machuki wrote:
Rayge wrote:I have an aversion to naming 'generations', whatever the fuck they are, and even more writing self-promoting songs about them (honourable exception for 'My Generation'),


I'll bet you a US dollar that you like the original Beatsploitation track just fine


Good job I'm not a gambling man, or I'd have lost a buck... :)

Never heard that before. Why the fuck didn't Rod McKuen sue Dickie (not that he would have got much)?

(putting my pedant's hat on, it doesn't really fall in the purlieu of my original comment, as Beat, as a generational indicator, had been used by Holmes and Wacky Jacky well before this song, but why cleave rabbits?) great tune, CG, cheers
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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Count Machuki » 10 Dec 2018, 20:08

:)

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Penk! » 10 Dec 2018, 20:27

Tough call! I really like both but I'm going to go with B on the principle that it's one of Mr Hell's best while A, though excellent, is not my favourite Bowie and is just one of dozens of great songs he did in the '70s. You can't throw a dart without hitting a classic Bowie song really.
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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Ranking Ted » 10 Dec 2018, 21:55

Its pretty tough on Mr Hell that his best song is not as good as approximately the 85th best song Bowie released in the 70s. But there you go. Red Sails is just fresher & cooler.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Polishgirl » 10 Dec 2018, 21:57

Neither grabs me by the pigtails.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby T. Willy Rye » 11 Dec 2018, 01:41

B

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Jumper K » 11 Dec 2018, 08:54

B

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Nick Danger » 11 Dec 2018, 17:12

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby Hightea » 12 Dec 2018, 02:18

A - Belew and Bowie nice blend here, not the strongest Bowie tune but got some nice Belew riffs very prog Kraurock style. I saw Belew in four different bands by 81(Zappa, Bowie, Talking Heads, King Crimson) .

B- Great Hell but obvious and overplayed song.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby never/ever » 12 Dec 2018, 10:04

Top tracks, both of them had a lot of pull for me.
Just a slight edge to Hell for me...

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby echolalia » 12 Dec 2018, 22:30

B

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby algroth » 13 Dec 2018, 04:42

I like both of these pretty much about the same. I guess I'll go with B for the sake of evening things out a little.

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2

Postby never/ever » 13 Dec 2018, 19:57

The Modernist 15

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2 *DRAW*

Postby algroth » 14 Dec 2018, 01:04

Wow, it seems I *really* evened things out in the end. :lol:

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Re: 70s KnockOut Cup- SS 2 *DRAW*

Postby Loki » 14 Dec 2018, 22:41

You've done it a few times. It's known as the "Curse of Algroth".
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