70s Cup Round 8 Match 10 *Loki 14- algroth 13*
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70s Cup Round 8 Match 10 *Loki 14- algroth 13*
A
Carly Simon - That's The Way
B
Magma - De Futura
Carly Simon - That's The Way
B
Magma - De Futura
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Two very different tracks and I like them both.
Magma - what can one say - full of music in tons/tonnes
A Steve Davis favourite - if it's good enough for Steve it's good enough for me.
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Magma - what can one say - full of music in tons/tonnes
A Steve Davis favourite - if it's good enough for Steve it's good enough for me.
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As a prog fan, I have issues with the music of Magma. I am unable to engage with this and many more of their tracks.
As a prog fan, I have issues with the music of Magma. I am unable to engage with this and many more of their tracks.
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Both awful.
No doubt G will put up some kind of defence of A, saying it strives for pop perfection and works really well and is too readily dismissed by BCBers. I don't know. As someone semi-famous once said, there's not enough there there
And B is just horrible, and I'm not proud of my sentiments, 'cos they're predictable in this case. But really, what do you expect? It's a load of old crap and the fact that Steve Davis and the BCB goons are the only people I know who support it doesn't really entice me to give it much more than 20 seconds of my time
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No doubt G will put up some kind of defence of A, saying it strives for pop perfection and works really well and is too readily dismissed by BCBers. I don't know. As someone semi-famous once said, there's not enough there there
And B is just horrible, and I'm not proud of my sentiments, 'cos they're predictable in this case. But really, what do you expect? It's a load of old crap and the fact that Steve Davis and the BCB goons are the only people I know who support it doesn't really entice me to give it much more than 20 seconds of my time
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RELD-LOMAX inc. wrote:Both awful.
No doubt G will put up some kind of defence of A, saying it strives for pop perfection and works really well and is too readily dismissed by BCBers. I don't know. As someone semi-famous once said, there's not enough there there
Maybe...I'll let you know when I listen to it. I don't know either track (at least not by title).
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B, I guess...
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The Magma is ... poor. And I'm being charitable.
Carly Simon wrote some great music in her time, and this is right up there. It broaches a difficult subject and handles it sensitively and with some insight. A beautiful tune. A.
Carly Simon wrote some great music in her time, and this is right up there. It broaches a difficult subject and handles it sensitively and with some insight. A beautiful tune. A.
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Diamond Dog wrote:Carly Simon wrote some great music in her time, and this is right up there. It broaches a difficult subject and handles it sensitively and with some insight. A beautiful tune.
It's almost an anthem of the women's movement - testament to the social changes that were upon us. Living together was a scandalous thing a mere 40 or so years ago.
Yes it's a beautiful song. The verse is moody and plaintive, and then the chorus sweeps in, ushering us into a tentative new era. It soars.
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A has got an appealingly melancholic flavour and Carly Simon's voice is hard to resist, plus I adore "You're So Vain" and I don't like B
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A's the kind of earnest ballad writ-large that makes me think of Barbra Streisand films and Carpenters mawkishness. It might have a forward thinking lyric well-written, but there's too much bombast, it's far too overcooked to do anything other than go "look I'm a FUCKING BIG PIANO BALLAD". Meatloaf would turn it down for being too overbearing.
17 minutes of Magma? Joel, you've got to be shitting me. Can I vote for it, if I don't listen to it all. Feck it. I'll come back tomorrow.
17 minutes of Magma? Joel, you've got to be shitting me. Can I vote for it, if I don't listen to it all. Feck it. I'll come back tomorrow.
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B is ridiculous and overblown. I love it.
I like A too, but again, she has non-hits I like more and that would impress me more as picks. Not to repeat myself.
I like A too, but again, she has non-hits I like more and that would impress me more as picks. Not to repeat myself.
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Carly Simon began in a quite interesting, intimate way but soon lost me with that booming, overwrought chorus. It was like an early prototype of the 80s power ballad.
The Magma one began quite horribly but if you skip along 3 or 4 minutes it does develop a groove and the kind of alarming soundscape that I can imagine in a Dario Argento movie. Would probably rather hear something else that just sampled the good bits of it and recontextualised them in a better record.
Er...B
The Magma one began quite horribly but if you skip along 3 or 4 minutes it does develop a groove and the kind of alarming soundscape that I can imagine in a Dario Argento movie. Would probably rather hear something else that just sampled the good bits of it and recontextualised them in a better record.
Er...B
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Darkness_Fish wrote:A's the kind of earnest ballad writ-large that makes me think of Barbra Streisand films and Carpenters mawkishness. It might have a forward thinking lyric well-written, but there's too much bombast, it's far too overcooked to do anything other than go "look I'm a FUCKING BIG PIANO BALLAD". Meatloaf would turn it down for being too overbearing.
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That explains why you're both wrong.
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I don’t vote against Magma, especially when it’s up against Carly Simon and even more so when it’s this track. One of the top prog songs of the 1970s, in my mind. B easily.
And to Fish, I actually didn’t pick this song, surprisingly.
And to Fish, I actually didn’t pick this song, surprisingly.
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Actually, B's way better than I expected, I can understand why it wasn't Joel's pick
It's all a bit clunky when the vocals come in, but I like the bass and spooky synth sections. Like a funky early Laibach.
B
It's all a bit clunky when the vocals come in, but I like the bass and spooky synth sections. Like a funky early Laibach.
B
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I'm not always impressed by what I heard from Magma, I generally find them just too hard going and lacking in anything melodic or pleasing to the ear, and it's so often just a slog a get through to the end. Having said that this track has more than enough about it that I liked, not that it was a commercial sell out by any means. I always liked that their logo adopts The Goodies style font.
A flew to close the bland MOR power ballad territory for my liking. The kind of thing my mum would say was "proper music" when I was a kid
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A flew to close the bland MOR power ballad territory for my liking. The kind of thing my mum would say was "proper music" when I was a kid
B
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I 100% agree with D_F about A
I have heard very little Magma. What I have heard (here, where else?) I liked a lot. Probably it's time for me to go deeper, hard work as it may seem.
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I have heard very little Magma. What I have heard (here, where else?) I liked a lot. Probably it's time for me to go deeper, hard work as it may seem.
B
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