70s Cup Round 7 Match 3 *K 5- Polishgirl 29*
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Re: 70s Cup Round 7 Match 3
B is so much more a classic
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Essex vs Surrey. Might make for a good cricket match I suppose, but...
a - 10 minutes!! Fuck off, Dave, there's a good chap. I'll give you three. See if you can come in before the deadline is up. Oooh, the intro is kind of conceptual, ain't it? And when DE does appear, there's none of that cheeky chap vocalese we came to love and vomit over in the 70s. Stop giggling at the back, this is a Serious Statement. Still, he did go on to appear in EastEnders, so props for that 4 /10
b - As so often with the Jam's later singles, this starts off really nicely - what a fabulously tight rhythm section - and then the bellowing starts. In retrospect, this single, and the album it came from marked the parting of the ways between me and the Woking Wanker – I'd bought everything by them up to this, and a few others later from Woolies' bargain bins. It's the song, really, so clumsy and gauche and basically stupid - like many other clothes' fans, he really is a dim bulb. Foxton and Buckler do their usual excellent job, so 4.5 / 10, but I'm not voting for it, so gor blimey, lord love a duck, another bone lobbed the way of
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a - 10 minutes!! Fuck off, Dave, there's a good chap. I'll give you three. See if you can come in before the deadline is up. Oooh, the intro is kind of conceptual, ain't it? And when DE does appear, there's none of that cheeky chap vocalese we came to love and vomit over in the 70s. Stop giggling at the back, this is a Serious Statement. Still, he did go on to appear in EastEnders, so props for that 4 /10
b - As so often with the Jam's later singles, this starts off really nicely - what a fabulously tight rhythm section - and then the bellowing starts. In retrospect, this single, and the album it came from marked the parting of the ways between me and the Woking Wanker – I'd bought everything by them up to this, and a few others later from Woolies' bargain bins. It's the song, really, so clumsy and gauche and basically stupid - like many other clothes' fans, he really is a dim bulb. Foxton and Buckler do their usual excellent job, so 4.5 / 10, but I'm not voting for it, so gor blimey, lord love a duck, another bone lobbed the way of
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Re: 70s Cup Round 7 Match 3
David Essex. With a steaming pile of verbose overblown shite, to boot.
B ffs.
B ffs.
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C'mon A, if you'd have given me just something to go on, any real song, or perhaps just some odd Frenchman bellowing out trad folk over some shouting. Anything at all that I could've picked instead of an obvious pop monster. David Essex's voice is the worst thing on earth outside The B52s, and applying it to a pompous musical cast-off slice of bollocks doesn't help in any way.
I'm not sure if this is The Jam's best moment or not, my main problem with it is the first verse after that roaring tumbling intro; it's a bit limp and instead of the snide attitudinal thing he's going for he sounds more akin to a particular wet drama teacher. A bit like Them's "Here Comes the Night" in the disappointment after large intro stakes. But of course, that's a bunch of really over-cooked negatives about a great pop song with some quite ace lyrical moments and a proper understanding of dynamics.
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I'm not sure if this is The Jam's best moment or not, my main problem with it is the first verse after that roaring tumbling intro; it's a bit limp and instead of the snide attitudinal thing he's going for he sounds more akin to a particular wet drama teacher. A bit like Them's "Here Comes the Night" in the disappointment after large intro stakes. But of course, that's a bunch of really over-cooked negatives about a great pop song with some quite ace lyrical moments and a proper understanding of dynamics.
B
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Wow. That just might be the shittiest drum sound I've ever heard outside of the eighties. For that alone it loses. I don't even need to go into its sub-Bowie nonsense. Bleurgh!
Easy win for one of the few Weller creations I like.
B
Easy win for one of the few Weller creations I like.
B
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i seem to recall a period in the 70s when so many people went for the melodramatic, here's-what-life-in-the-streets-is-really-like, pseudo-epic, allegedly real crap. it's not that i can't enjoy drama. but i really would rather listen to meatloaf. why? (a) he could be catchy as hell, even in his kitschiness; and (b) he never took himself seriously. high camp and much silliness there. here? the high seriousness just doesn't work for me, combined with music and performance stretching to outrageousness. this aint the high art david thinks it is.
that being said, it *is* a brave and different choice. don't mean to be too mean. ya try weird and different things, you run a greater risk of trouble.
the jam track is fine.
sorry, david.
that being said, it *is* a brave and different choice. don't mean to be too mean. ya try weird and different things, you run a greater risk of trouble.
the jam track is fine.
sorry, david.
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B
Let U be the set of all united sets, K be the set of the kids and D be the set of things divided.
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
Then it follows that ∀ k ∈ K: K ∈ U ⇒ k ∉ D
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Never heard Essex's overblown over-the-top epic and truly enjoyed it.
Pity it comes opposite a moment of pop perfection.
B, reluctantly.
Pity it comes opposite a moment of pop perfection.
B, reluctantly.
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Dearie me. I want to applaud the ‘no fucks given’ risk taking of A but they’ve come up against a track that’s virtually impossible to beat. Sorry.
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A is like Meat Loaf on heavy tranquillisers
B is undeniable.
B
B is undeniable.
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I'll echo the sentiments about this being The Jam and Paul Weller's high point. An absolute storming track.
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A little too much Broadway blandness in A for my tastes, so B it is.
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