70s Cup Round 2 Match 7 *TCE 20- Penk 13*

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby trans-chigley express » 18 Oct 2018, 04:45

B started off much too smooth and schmaltzy with a touch of Barry White about it but as it went on it improved and I ended up quite enjoying the long fade out with just the backing vocalist repeating the title and the twangy guitar.


I adore A, it's such a delight and I'm surprised at the bad rap it's getting

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby fange » 18 Oct 2018, 05:59

These are both great/good tunes, and i'm surprised and saddened by the derision they're receiving. Anyway, B is fine bit of early 70s funky soul, a little of its time but enjoyable. It's just not as strong as A though, which elevates to peak levels, so ...


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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby kath » 18 Oct 2018, 07:46

they're both good. i enjoyed both.

the callier track is more of an interesting, dynamic, moving and breathing thing. not that B doesn't have its moves, it landed right nicely on my ears, but i much preferred the way callier moved.

length is a strange thing. whether it's a two minute song or a ten minute song, it needs to own the time. (i would say the same thing about books, movies, etc.) callier did that. while i enjoyed B, it didn't own its length as well, if that makes any sense.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby Samoan » 18 Oct 2018, 10:37

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby Loki » 18 Oct 2018, 10:56

I'm behind G and fange here - they're both good, and it IS sad to see so many abstentions.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby algroth » 18 Oct 2018, 20:01

I would probably agree that there's better tracks than A in What Colour Is Love, and that there's some passages that are... questionable, let's say... But it's still a very good track all in all, and as with many others here I'm surprised at the derision it is being met with. B didn't do much for me, it's a bit anemic for my tastes. So A.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby Jumper K » 18 Oct 2018, 20:37

Come on! You lot should love this sort of unlistenable jamtoss. It’s fekkin excruciating to my ears. In the spirit of appreciating the time put into selecting these I’ll go B. You are deluded fools whoever you are.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby Ranking Ted » 18 Oct 2018, 21:45

A is very evocative, listening here on my iPad at low volume trying not to wake the kid, you can almost drift away to another plane. Certainly would help to be on a third glass of Rioja to enhance the experience but very pleasant all the same. B is also a really enjoyable, stretched out groove of a thing, got a touch of Marvin to my ears. Why couldn’t the picks in the last match have met these? Anyway...

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby mantochanga » 18 Oct 2018, 22:27

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby Hightea » 19 Oct 2018, 02:49

Yikes two long tracks. Now wish I put GD-Terrapin Station or Nektar - RTF :lol:

Both would be okay if they were 3 minutes long neither is worthy with lots of going nowhere.


B -reminds me of smooth jazz something I'm not a fan of.

I picked on Terry Callier in the last thread but I'll give him a pass here

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby toomanyhatz » 19 Oct 2018, 18:35

Both are very OTT, and in the wrong hands could just be ridiculous, but I think both artists do a good enough job of selling it to override any objections about it. If you don't like Callier (which apparently many people here don't), I can see A being an incredible slog, but I love him - and the way he twists and contorts his voice every which way is undeniably impressive, even if you don't buy in. I buy in. And so, I suspect, did Tim Buckley, who learned a thing or two.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby harvey k-tel » 19 Oct 2018, 19:24

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby WG Kaspar » 20 Oct 2018, 12:58

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby Neige » 21 Oct 2018, 15:04

Not overly excited by either, but at least A is a better Terry Callier track then the first one.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby echolalia » 21 Oct 2018, 17:27

Well, I find that Terry Callier song really powerful. Much more than a pretty arrangement. B gives it a good run but still

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby Rayge » 22 Oct 2018, 14:44

Eighteen minutes! Stone the fucking crows.
a - delicacy a go-go. Folk singer-songwriter territory, a tenor David Ackles. The only connection this has to soul or black music in general is the colour of Callier's skin. And a bit of jazz scatting. Correction, a lot of jazz scatting. There's the odd pretty guitar figure in there too, and some bravura arrangement. May sound like faint praise, but I really quite liked it, without ever wanting to hear it again. 5.5 / 10
b- this guy has more of an authentic soul voice going on, but there's an infection of funk cliches in the instrumental track, and a suggestion of length for length's sake, and a scattershot attitude to construction. Oh, and they've let some twerp with an effects pedal wah his wah all over the carpet, leaving a nasty stain. Might have won the tie without that 5 / 10

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby The Red Heifer » 23 Oct 2018, 03:50

What I normally do is I listen to these while driving or doing other work things and come back to them and listen again to see if my original opinion stands. I'd do the same to these two but I haven't got the spare two weeks.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby never/ever » 23 Oct 2018, 11:29

B is pretty good but Callier is the man.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 2 Match 7

Postby never/ever » 24 Oct 2018, 10:52

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