70s Cup Round 1 Match 10 *Penk 27- Neige 14*

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby driftin » 15 Oct 2018, 09:49

A is world class. That bass line at the front and centre, the precise drumming, Ian's disconnected vocals, the fuzzy guitars all tied together with an almost dubby and massively spacious production. It doesn't get much better than this. With a song this good who cares about its obviousness?

Slade? Seriously?

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Diamond Dog » 15 Oct 2018, 11:06

I never got to the salivating stage that others at the time did with JD - I like them well enough but don't ever feel compelled to jump back into them to reassess.This is very typical of their output - fine but that's it.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Darkness_Fish » 15 Oct 2018, 11:42

I don't know why I'm sat here listening to Disorder, I know it better than I know my wife. It's possibly the greatest debut album opening track in history, with the best opening lines, "I've been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand; could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man". Just awesome. Ok, JD are an obvious pick, and I didn't choose anything by them for that reason, but y'know, there's not going to be a single track that's better than this in the entire competition.

I do like Slade, as it happens, and I think this was their first big hit, wasn't it? Makes me wish they'd had more fiddle in their other tunes. It would've won many a tie in this competition, but it's basically been slapped down and sent packing. Not as big and brash as most glam tunes, it has a bit of a melancholy edge to go with its stomp that I really like. I feel bad for voting against it, to be honest, but there's nothing that's going to compete with unknown pleasures.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Polishgirl » 15 Oct 2018, 15:17

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Loki » 15 Oct 2018, 16:24

Never saw the appeal of Slade. Esp. with that screechy fiddle.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Jumper K » 15 Oct 2018, 19:11

JD really were the dullest shit you could listen to at the arse end of the 70's.
B. Although its throwaway tosh.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Moleskin » 15 Oct 2018, 19:38

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby WG Kaspar » 15 Oct 2018, 20:23

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby echolalia » 15 Oct 2018, 22:53

Generally I think JD are overrated, but this is one of my favourite tracks by them. I like that whooshing sound like high-speed elevators leaving a basement.

The Slade track is a bit crap.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby fange » 16 Oct 2018, 02:37

I wish this was closer, but it's not. B isn't awful by any means - despite the fingernails-on-blackboard fiddle, and the its perpetrator's eye-wateringly skintight pants - but it's simply punching way below its weight class for me.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Hightea » 16 Oct 2018, 04:05

No contest A

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby trans-chigley express » 16 Oct 2018, 05:14

Joy Division are like The Grateful Dead for me, the image and the album sleeves are far more appealing than the actual music. I find them clunky and rather tuneless and this is no exception so I'll stick to admiring their album covers instead.

I'm not the biggest fan of Slade but I enjoy their singles and the warm whiff of nostalgia they bring and this a good 'un.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby algroth » 16 Oct 2018, 21:24

PENK wrote:Joy Division really are a product of the '70s: paranoid, urgent, industrial and devastating.

It's hard to be negative about Slade, they're always enjoyable, but they're outclassed here.


This is pretty much how I feel. My only caveat, as with the 90s cup, is that as a choice in such a cup there's very little creativity in this as a pick. But, it's a clear few cuts above B. A then.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Neige » 17 Oct 2018, 10:59

JD's angst never appealed.

B is great fun and I love me a little fiddle.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Butch Manly » 17 Oct 2018, 11:08

B is okay but A is one of the best tracks ever by one of the best bands ever - almost an announcement that music was going somewhere a little different.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby Sneelock » 17 Oct 2018, 19:40

A by virtue of not having Noddy Holder's sideburns.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby toomanyhatz » 18 Oct 2018, 19:31

Two bands I like that I can never get totally behind - A can be too stuffy and B too goofy. They really should have listened to more of each other. :D

A is one of JD's best, and B is one of Slade's worst, though, so...
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 10

Postby never/ever » 19 Oct 2018, 04:28

Angsts, I had a few, but then again, too few to mention... JD was my go to punching bag, music to wash another difficult day away.
Slade just passed me by.

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