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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Samoan » 15 Oct 2018, 08:43

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Diamond Dog » 15 Oct 2018, 10:39

I know these both very well... a friend of mine was a huge John Martyn fan but he never got close to persuading me of his 'genius'. A is a pleasant tune, but never really goes very far and I find Martyn's stylised vocals a tad wearing after a while.

B is a beautiful song of that genre - it still sounds fresh and wins this easily, in my mind.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby trans-chigley express » 15 Oct 2018, 13:54

Solid Air is an old favourite and love it to bits. The Rotary Connection is completely new to me and I liked this a lot with a cool hippy vibe.

close but I'll go with the timeless Solid Air A

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Nick Danger » 15 Oct 2018, 14:37

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Polishgirl » 15 Oct 2018, 14:47

A bit too much going on in B for me.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Dayodead » 15 Oct 2018, 14:53

an unenthusiastic vote for B...

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Loki » 15 Oct 2018, 15:37

I like both of these. I find those Vibes irresistible.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby The Modernist » 15 Oct 2018, 15:39

trans-chigley express wrote:The Rotary Connection is completely new to me and I liked this a lot


At least I now know who's got me on ignore. :lol:

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Jumper K » 15 Oct 2018, 19:07

B I have the lp and have listened to it once. That was enough. A should have been slaughtered at birth. Utterly without any redeeming factors.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Moleskin » 15 Oct 2018, 19:42

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby trans-chigley express » 16 Oct 2018, 03:11

The Modernist wrote:
trans-chigley express wrote:The Rotary Connection is completely new to me and I liked this a lot


At least I now know who's got me on ignore. :lol:


I don't have you on ignore, I just don't read your posts ;)

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Hightea » 16 Oct 2018, 03:30

nice John Martyn tune. tend to listen to his live stuff these days.

B- BCB has played this for me before and believe my brother had this album. I like the beginning and parts of the rest of the song. Nice soothing groove although the end is a mess (that is something we tend to like but not here).

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby algroth » 16 Oct 2018, 20:50

Really enjoying B, and it's new to me to boot. I've never gotten along with A or that album in general, I just don't get what it's trying to say to me I suppose, and as such I feel it's a track that feels content to fill some void of silence or whatnot.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby The Modernist » 16 Oct 2018, 23:16

For those new to B you can find out more about the song here:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=136839&p=3920766&hilit=black+gold#p3920766

We've also had a number of Charles Stepney threads over the years which are worth reading!

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby algroth » 16 Oct 2018, 23:31

The Modernist wrote:For those new to B you can find out more about the song here:

http://www.bcb-board.co.uk/phpBB2/viewt ... d#p3920766

We've also had a number of Charles Stepney threads over the years which are worth reading!


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Neige » 17 Oct 2018, 10:40

Unfortunate match for John Martyn - I opened the thread thinking he would win hands down against anyone.

But B is a monster, thanks to whoever posted it.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Sneelock » 17 Oct 2018, 19:29

B by virtue of being less mellow.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby toomanyhatz » 18 Oct 2018, 08:01

Two things I always expect to like more than I actually do, but I eventually came to the conclusion that Martyn just ain't for me. He can sing and play, but I always end up bored.

I came to the same conclusion about RC too, to a lesser degree, but can't deny that B is a pretty monumental track. A bit of a BCB Canon one, as G has gone on about it many times through the years, but it still engages me a lot more than A.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby Rayge » 18 Oct 2018, 15:38

a - so what's up with his voice? Has he had a stroke? Is he totally pished? or is he so embarrassed by his own words that he mumbles it? Lord knows I tried (as was my patience) with this guy, as a lot of my contemporaries waxed enthusiastic over his guitar style and, ahem, emotional impact, much as they did with Nick 'Mummy my teddy's stopped breathing' Drake, although the later sounds like Hendrix compared with this alky's attempts at heroin chic nod out music. Oh fuck off you timewaster. 2.5 / 10
b already been exposed to this on this board in the BCB 100 songs - never heard it when it came out. This is what I wrote then:
I was mightily impressed from the start, and I'm a sucker for female chorales, but doubts started to creep in with the male vocal and ultimately it all dissolved into its constituent parts. It also sounded to me, a notoriously unreliable ear-witness, like several other things in the soul, R&B and pop fields - not all through, but in bits - and...thought it was very much of its time, especially the production and arrangement. In its time it would certainly have been one of the better things around, because 1971 was the beginning of the Dark Ages.
I think I can stand by that. 5.5 / 10

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 6

Postby never/ever » 19 Oct 2018, 02:32

B is part of that Mas Que Nada- scene, as I call it, a sort of easy listening with choral vocals that pleasantly meanders along. It's not setting my world alight but it is, errr, sumptuous enough.
A is a good track from an otherwise excellent artist. Very nice to hear this.

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