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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Osgood » 14 Oct 2018, 21:35

Kath has said it much better than I could

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby pcqgod » 14 Oct 2018, 21:42

Track A takes a while to take off, but when it does it's a terrific groove. I love Chrome and Helios Creed, but I'm not feeling this one today.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Ranking Ted » 14 Oct 2018, 21:56

This tie seems to be polarising opinions. To these ears, you’ve got a fairly nondescript piece of post punk against an absolute Goliath of a track, a construct of epic disco aceness that’s so far up my street it’s parked in my drive. Easy

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Count Machuki » 14 Oct 2018, 22:05

I've liked some Chrome tracks I've heard but never as Idris Muhammad.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Butch Manly » 14 Oct 2018, 22:40

Both new to me and, once again, I thought both were splendid.

B for me, though.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby echolalia » 15 Oct 2018, 01:00

Both “not available”. I youtubed them anyway.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby fange » 15 Oct 2018, 03:50

echolalia wrote:Both “not available”. I youtubed them anyway.

Yes, same here. I know A well, but always look forward to hearing it anyway; B rang a bell but i couldn't remember it, and i'm very glad to remake its acquaintance. Good stuff - great guitar sound, spare but groovy tune. It could have won a fair few ties, but not here against Idris. He made a bunch of excellent crossover records in the '70s, and this is peak stuff.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Diamond Dog » 15 Oct 2018, 10:31

God - some new wave/no wave/punk stuff really hasn't stood the test of time well, has it? Awful tune B.

I very nearly put A on my list.... it should win this easily.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Samoan » 15 Oct 2018, 10:47

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby trans-chigley express » 15 Oct 2018, 13:48

A was really nicely arranged with an abundance of nice touches - tom toms, spacey keyboards and tasty guitar - keeping things interesting right to the end

B was bit tuneless and forgettable in comparison with horrible vocals

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Nick Danger » 15 Oct 2018, 14:34

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Polishgirl » 15 Oct 2018, 14:37

Sorry, A: that's basically like several of my musical nightmares collided.

B is probably a bit lucky, here

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Loki » 15 Oct 2018, 14:47

I think with A, you had to be there.


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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Jumper K » 15 Oct 2018, 19:05

Chrome. What a band. Disco. What a pile of nonsense.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Hightea » 16 Oct 2018, 02:58

A - shame he was doing good jazz and early funk. Then this mess. Even though its that very typical disco funk sound the backup instrumentation keeps it interesting as the arrangements keep changing. Sort of prog funk in my eyes lots of soloing going on. My problem here is they are all playing to themself instead as a cohesive unit although it somehow blends. Couldn't find a live version but would bet several musicians in this band wish they were elsewhere.

B- Chrome, nice early industrial/post punk and some space rock - Yeah I get the punk stooges part but also hear Roky Erickson and Hawkwind. Is that a solo at the end? hm

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby algroth » 16 Oct 2018, 20:38

A is very much my kind of disco, I like the way it smoothly leads you into its groove and always seems on the more tasteful side of things for its own genre. I dig it very much, even if I feel it begins to lose me a little in the extended jam section towards the latter half. B nearly made it into my list however, I can usually find myself admiring Chrome more than actually digging them but this is a great track.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Neige » 17 Oct 2018, 11:38

Both clips were blocked in my corner of the earth, but I found Chrome and remixes of the Idris Muhammad track (as well as other disco stuff by him) and I can say with a good conscience

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Lord Rother » 17 Oct 2018, 11:46

Pretty much all disco sucks and this is no exception so A is out for me.

Incredible that B is even worse if anything.

No vote.

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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby Sneelock » 17 Oct 2018, 19:26

I listened to "Turn This Mutha Out" for the very first time about 2 weeks ago. it's great.
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Re: 70s Cup Round 1 Match 5

Postby toomanyhatz » 18 Oct 2018, 07:42

As seems to happen in cups (and not much of anywhere else), I agree with much of what the Fishy one says here. But ultimately,while A has a lot of elements I like, on a pure visceral level it ultimately doesn't do much for me. And (probably because I don't spend much time on the dancefloor), it outlasted my attention span.

Opposite to DF, however, B is less "my kind of thing," but I've always thought Chrome did it extraordinarily well. Maybe because they don't quite fit into any particular scene. They're punk-informed,obviously, but there's also something winning in their scattershot approach. Or you might say (well, at least I would) that A is bold and inventive, but adds up to a pretty basic dance floor filler, while B turns ordinary elements into something just off-kilter enough to be enthralling.
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