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90s Cup Round 2 Match 3 *FORFEIT- Neige 0- Modernist 25*

Postby never/ever » 15 Aug 2018, 11:40

A

Goran Bregovic - Ederlezi (Time of the Gypsies)



(if that link didn't work- this one might!)




B

Jah Wobble's Invaders of the Heart - Bomba

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby algroth » 15 Aug 2018, 16:30

I had issues with both videos, actually, I mean the original one for A and the one for B. I did find "Bomba" on Spotify though.

This is an interesting matchup of tracks where each has its own ethnic sound blended with some staple 90s electronic rhythms and the likes. And I do think the latter is the worst aspect of either, but still I overall enjoyed them quite a bit. I wasn't entirely certain who the first guy was but it makes sense that he's worked a fair bit with Emir Kusturica on his films (Underground particularly). It's a tough one actually, I would have voted for either in several other matches for certain, but I'm going with A by a hair, I guess.

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Diamond Dog » 15 Aug 2018, 17:57

I like the Wobble right enough.

I actually own A so that wins.
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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby toomanyhatz » 15 Aug 2018, 18:34

An easy, easy B. Even though it's far from my favorite Wobble, it's got some semblance of melody and structure. I'm having flashbacks to "left of the dial" listening again. That contestants seem oddly insistent on settling in there is Not a Good Thing.
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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Penk! » 15 Aug 2018, 20:49

ECM is often a mark of quality but they do sometimes stray into New Age pants and A here is a prime example (although I just realised it's not on ECM - the picture on the video made me think it was!). The crunchy beats just make it worse. From the Kusturica mention I was hoping for some of the brilliant Balkan brass from his films - maybe I should have picked 'Pitbull Terrier' for my list!

But then I played B and it was a similarly hapless mismatch of "world music" and badly dated electronics.

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby joels344 » 16 Aug 2018, 17:14

Usually, I would vote for something like A, but B is fitting my mood today.
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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby driftin » 16 Aug 2018, 20:17

Both are the kinds of inoffensively bland world music tracks you'd hear when you enter one of those shops that smell like incense and sell dreamcatchers and kitschy framed pictures of dolphins.

A has that horrible generic trip-hop beat which was copied and pasted across hundreds of other similar acts like Enigma and Clannad in the 90s so B gets my vote.

I had to really force myself not to abstain though.

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Ranking Ted » 16 Aug 2018, 23:16

I suppose all that traveller, new age crusty stuff was popular in the nineties amongst the herbal festival types. Spicy bean burger anyone? Sorry, can’t split these. Both bobbins. First abstain of the Cup for me. Given the picks so far, it won’t be the last. For emphasis:

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby never/ever » 17 Aug 2018, 11:40

Seen Bregovic live and it was a party! This just doesn't do much for me. Shame, I was glad to see him in this Cup.
B is alright but not brilliant.

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Darkness_Fish » 17 Aug 2018, 19:36

Patchouli! Incense! Dream catchers! Those pictures of beaches backlit with moving lights making it look like the water is literally some cheap lighting effect.

This is wretched stuff. Embarrassing.

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Polishgirl » 17 Aug 2018, 20:28

Grumpy buggers. I am very keen on Rising Above Bedlam. Yes; it is patchy and hasn't necessarily aged brilliantly, but it still hurts a spot for me.

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby T. Willy Rye » 18 Aug 2018, 00:06

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby fange » 18 Aug 2018, 01:21

B, just.
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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby The Modernist » 18 Aug 2018, 08:21

People project so much onto this stuff don't they? Unfortunately 'world music' has got such a bad rep amongst music snobs that they can't get past that filter. It's just music.
I liked both. The haunting vocals of A were great, but that rhythm track did it no favours and I think it may also be from outside the 90s. B really lifts off with the chorus and the vocal is full of joy.

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Darkness_Fish » 18 Aug 2018, 08:35

The Modernist wrote:People project so much onto this stuff don't they? Unfortunately 'world music' has got such a bad rep amongst music snobs that they can't get past that filter. It's just music.

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I don't believe that any of us have a problem with world music, other than the term itself, and to be honest, I don't really give a shit about that. It's the cheap appropriation of the music of different cultures, presented with a shitty generic 'chill out' beat slapped over the top. That's what I'm reacting to. It's lazy, it's fucking bland, and it's shit.

Honestly, I hate the projection of rationale for liking or disliking music, as if you've got some insight that we all just can't see, because we're blinkered by our cynicism. If you like it, fine, embrace it. But even new-age can be done well, and here it just isn't; it's unimaginative wretched shit.
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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby never/ever » 18 Aug 2018, 09:11

Sadly enough though, A turns out to be released in 1989.
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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby The Modernist » 18 Aug 2018, 09:15

Darkness_Fish wrote: it's unimaginative wretched shit.


..and still better than 99% of your record collection. :lol:

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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Loki » 18 Aug 2018, 09:43

He's got ya there, Davy. :)
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Re: 90s Cup Round 2 Match 3

Postby Neige » 18 Aug 2018, 11:21

I'm going to out myself as Player A here, because I really really really didn't choose this godawful remix!! I'd never vote for it myself!!!!

The reason my clip didn't work was simply one missing character in the address.

So here's the real thing - a real magical moment in what remains my favourite Kusturica film.




Anyway, I'll vote for A and who nows, some people who've already votet might reconsider.
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