70s Cup Round 2 Match 3 *Loki 25- Hatz 9*
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A - sounds more like a 60's song. A few nice aspects about the song.
B- don't get the fascination with this guy.
A by default!
B- don't get the fascination with this guy.
A by default!
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Hightea wrote:B- don't get the fascination with this guy.
Of most people in this board I'd have reckoned you as someone who'd very much be into his work, at least the latter stages of it. You didn't enjoy the likes of Tilt and The Drift?
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Scott Walker can jog on.
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algroth wrote:Hightea wrote:B- don't get the fascination with this guy.
Of most people in this board I'd have reckoned you as someone who'd very much be into his work, at least the latter stages of it. You didn't enjoy the likes of Tilt and The Drift?
I get the whole dark ghostly vocals is my cup of tea. Also he tends to have nice arrangements but somehow no matter how many times I listen it doesn't stick with me. Tilt is okay haven't listened to The Drift. Maybe I'll give it a spin tonight.
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I really like 70s power pop stuff. I bail on Scott after Scott 4...
I really like 70s power pop stuff. I bail on Scott after Scott 4...
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And welcome, once again, to Hatz's abiding love for transitional albums...
I really, really don't get what everybody's harping on about with B. Yes, it's a terrible album cover photo. Yes, it's laden with bad cover versions (actually, I think they're fine - just out of place). And yes, soon after he did sort of lose interest in doing the kind of arty maudlin stuff that's all over 4 and this*. But ffs, it's not as if he turned into Mantovani. There's still plenty of dissonance and oddness in this to my ears. And lyrically, he was just coming into his own. And singing great. I mean, he always has a touch of affectation in his voice. But this sounds much more in line with what came before than what came after. That the BCB Massive hears it completely differently changes my mind not a whit, as it's often the case.
A is cute, and nice enough, though the main difference between it and, say, something from David Essex or somebody like that, is that it wasn't very successful. It's no great lost classic.
And yes, I would've voted for Fotheringay against it. Easily.
* EDIT - Actually, I don't think he lost interest, I think he couldn't find a record company that wanted what he did. Maybe if he had hired Rory Gallagher to add some weedly-woo, and dropped the crooner voice and really rocked out. Although by his own admission, he was kind of lost in an alcoholic haze by then.
I really, really don't get what everybody's harping on about with B. Yes, it's a terrible album cover photo. Yes, it's laden with bad cover versions (actually, I think they're fine - just out of place). And yes, soon after he did sort of lose interest in doing the kind of arty maudlin stuff that's all over 4 and this*. But ffs, it's not as if he turned into Mantovani. There's still plenty of dissonance and oddness in this to my ears. And lyrically, he was just coming into his own. And singing great. I mean, he always has a touch of affectation in his voice. But this sounds much more in line with what came before than what came after. That the BCB Massive hears it completely differently changes my mind not a whit, as it's often the case.
A is cute, and nice enough, though the main difference between it and, say, something from David Essex or somebody like that, is that it wasn't very successful. It's no great lost classic.
And yes, I would've voted for Fotheringay against it. Easily.
* EDIT - Actually, I don't think he lost interest, I think he couldn't find a record company that wanted what he did. Maybe if he had hired Rory Gallagher to add some weedly-woo, and dropped the crooner voice and really rocked out. Although by his own admission, he was kind of lost in an alcoholic haze by then.
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Here's me liking a Scott Walker song, live and learn (I deeply hate his Brel covers to the point of refusing to check anything else, maybe I should try 4)
A was nice, but I'll surprise myself
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A was nice, but I'll surprise myself
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B by far. I've always liked Scott's voice and A just sounds like a filler track you'd find on a 70s driving music compilation.
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I would normally vote for Scott Walker (well, not the politician, obviously), but that track doesn’t do anything for me. ’Til the Band Comes in is an alright Walker album. It just lacks the artistic merits of what came before and the ambition of what would come after. So, A here.
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a - ooh, a bit of pop music. Harks back to the ’60s a bit, and if I'd heard it when it came out, I probably would have hated it, but today, in the context of the drivel I've been pouring into my lugs this arvo, it sounded fresh and unexceptionable. 5 / 10
b - this is new to me, too, but of course I know the voice. As far as I'm concerned, his peak was in the Walker Brothers, the contrast between his rich baritone and massed string sections, with kitchen sink arrangements and high camp and drama factors. This is a step down from that (John Maus's tenor is missing, and the chorus girls grate more than a bit), but it's still moderately diverting, not wilfully alienating, nor torturedly arty, and it's single length, even if not a single. 5 / 10
B because it doesn't deserve the kicking it's getting
b - this is new to me, too, but of course I know the voice. As far as I'm concerned, his peak was in the Walker Brothers, the contrast between his rich baritone and massed string sections, with kitchen sink arrangements and high camp and drama factors. This is a step down from that (John Maus's tenor is missing, and the chorus girls grate more than a bit), but it's still moderately diverting, not wilfully alienating, nor torturedly arty, and it's single length, even if not a single. 5 / 10
B because it doesn't deserve the kicking it's getting
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I like Walker's voice a lot. Wished he did some stuff wit a lot of gravitas in it- outside of the experimental things of his later years. I keep on thinking his voice is wasted on things like this- like a fart in the wind it just dissipates way too quickly..
It's up against a right nothing song that at least does its best to stick in your mind.
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It's up against a right nothing song that at least does its best to stick in your mind.
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never/ever wrote:I like Walker's voice a lot. Wished he did some stuff wit a lot of gravitas in it- outside of the experimental things of his later years.
He did, Scott 3 and Scott 4 especially.
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The Modernist wrote:never/ever wrote:I like Walker's voice a lot. Wished he did some stuff wit a lot of gravitas in it- outside of the experimental things of his later years.
He did, Scott 3 and Scott 4 especially.
I know. I got those.
He could get even more morbid, I suppose. Even the Brel-stuff is relatively light, though lyrically it is gritty.
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Nowt wrong with B, the vocal mannerisms and bombast are what Scott Walker does...
A is totally unmemorable
And I'd have voted for Fotheringay too.
A is totally unmemorable
And I'd have voted for Fotheringay too.
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Both were okay. There was a bit too much of "sunshine AM hits of the 70's" vibe about A, but I'll take it here.
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Scott Walker can go fuck himself.
A does indeed sound like its from a TV show, but at least it was pleasing to listen to.
A does indeed sound like its from a TV show, but at least it was pleasing to listen to.
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