BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1 - The Fall of Coan!

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BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1 - The Fall of Coan!

Postby Tonto Papadopoulos » 01 Mar 2009, 22:10

List A:

I Want to Take You Higher - Sly & The Family Stone
Union City Blue - Blondie
What Goes On - The Velvet Underground
Somethin' Else - Eddie Cochran
I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself - Dusty Springfield
Love Hangover - Diana Ross
(I Don't Want To Go To) Chelsea - Elvis Costello & The Attractions
Going to a Go-Go - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Pop Life - Prince
Chords of Fame - Phil Ochs
20th Century Boy - T.Rex
Maps - Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Tam Lin - Fairport Convention
I've Got to Use My Imagination - Gladys Knight & The Pips
Nightclubbing - Iggy Pop
Im Not A Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers
Trash - The New York Dolls
Butterfly McQueen - Boo Radleys
Use Me - Bill Withers
Fame - David Bowie
Blank Generation - Richard Hell & the Voidoids
Rave On - Buddy Holly
Tighten Up, Pt. 1 - Archie Bell & The Drells
Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before - The Smiths
Everyday – Slade
(Drawing) Rings Around The World - Super Furry Animals
Apples and Oranges - Pink Floyd
Israelites - Desmond Dekker & The Aces
I Love My Leather Jacket - The Chills
If I Were a Carpenter - Tim Hardin


List B:

'Born On The Bayou' - Creedence Clearwater Revival
'Mushroom' - Can
'Totally Wired' - The Fall
'Arnold Layne' - Pink Floyd
‘I Got You’ – Split Enz
'Drive-In Saturday' - David Bowie
'From A Buick Six' - Bob Dylan
'New Race' - Radio Birdman
'Blackberry Way' - The Move
'The Mercy Seat' - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
'Dogs' - The Who
'Birth School Work Death' - The Godfathers
'Girl U Want' - Devo
'Let's Hang On' - Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons
'Do You Remember The First Time?' – Pulp
'Cars' - Gary Numan
'Shake Some Action' - The Flamin' Groovies
'Freak Scene' - Dinosaur Jr.
'London Social Degree' - Billy Nicholls
'The Light Pours Out Of Me' – Magazine
'Baby I Love You' - The Ronettes
'Zig Zag Wanderer' - Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band
'1,2,3 Red Light' - 1910 Fruitgum Company
'Holy Thursday' - David Axelrod
'I Believe In You' - Neil Young
'Theme from Joe 90' - The Barry Gray Orchestra
'Let's Build A Car' - Swell Maps
'Dolphins' - Tim Buckley
'Love Comes In Spurts' - Richard Hell and the Voidoids
'Across 110th Street' - Bobby Womack
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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby Neil Jung » 01 Mar 2009, 22:30

Not much to choose between these...B
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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby Corporate whore » 01 Mar 2009, 22:31

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Despite Tim Hardin.
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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby Wally Bingbang » 01 Mar 2009, 22:38

B

But who cares, really. The fix is obviously in, and has been since the start of the contest.
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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby Davey the Fat Boy » 01 Mar 2009, 22:49

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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby The Modernist » 01 Mar 2009, 22:53

Tough one. A wins the battle of the new five, although B finally picks a soul track (and a damn fine one at that). The question is does A do enough elsewhere? On balance although I think there are slightly more big hitters in B, the greater sense of variety and adventure of A make me lean towards it.

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Postby Snarfyguy » 01 Mar 2009, 23:08

Dr Modernist wrote:On balance although I think there are slightly more big hitters in B, the greater sense of variety and adventure of A make me lean towards it.

See, I don't care about variety and adventure; I just care about how much I like the songs, and there's a lot to like in both lists.

London Social Degree, Baby I Love You, Zig Zag Wanderer Shake Some Action and Let's Build a Car are massive; unimpeachable, and they should have advanced B to the Finals.

But the fact is, I would have given it to B if he'd chosen Fire Brigade instead of Blackberry Way, One Step Ahead instead of I Got You, and just about anything from the first album instead of Girl U Want.

Basically, B's highs are higher, but A is more consistent.

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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby LeBaron » 01 Mar 2009, 23:10

Very difficult. My decisions are usually pretty snappish, but this will take some meditation.
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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby Beno » 01 Mar 2009, 23:11

In a battle of Tims I'll take Hardin over Buckley every time.

Not that at this stage it comes down to one track. Both lists are very good but one just has a bit more variety and a lightness of touch that along with Tom Hardin helps me make my mind up.

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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby LeBaron » 01 Mar 2009, 23:12

corporate whore wrote:Despite Tim Hardin.


That's insanity.
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Postby Jeff K » 01 Mar 2009, 23:24

B

More closer to my own tastes.
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Postby Thesiger » 01 Mar 2009, 23:24

A
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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby The Fish » 01 Mar 2009, 23:49

Baron I wrote:
corporate whore wrote:Despite Tim Hardin.


That's insanity.


True.
A

because of Tim Hardin and much else beside
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Postby The Modernist » 01 Mar 2009, 23:50

Snarfyguy wrote:See, I don't care about variety and adventure; I just care about how much I like the songs.



I like steak and chips but I don't want to eat it every time I go to a restaurant. Of course it comes down to the songs, but within that I'm looking to be surprised and I'm looking for different textures and flavours.

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Postby Bungo the Mungo » 01 Mar 2009, 23:54

B

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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby Snarfyguy » 02 Mar 2009, 00:00

Dr Modernist wrote:
Snarfyguy wrote:See, I don't care about variety and adventure; I just care about how much I like the songs.



I like steak and chips but I don't want to eat it every time I go to a restaurant. Of course it comes down to the songs, but within that I'm looking to be surprised and I'm looking for different textures and flavours.

Let me put it this way: would you prefer ten great songs in one given genre or ten good songs in ten different genres?
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Postby The Modernist » 02 Mar 2009, 00:02

Snarfyguy wrote:
Dr Modernist wrote:
Snarfyguy wrote:See, I don't care about variety and adventure; I just care about how much I like the songs.



I like steak and chips but I don't want to eat it every time I go to a restaurant. Of course it comes down to the songs, but within that I'm looking to be surprised and I'm looking for different textures and flavours.

Let me put it this way: would you prefer ten great songs in one given genre or ten good songs in ten different genres?


It would depend on the songs.


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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby whodathunkit » 02 Mar 2009, 00:02

By this stage, I find weighing up two lists of 30 songs a bit like juggling jelly. Both these lists have their peaks and troughs so it comes down to the usual flash of blind prejudice and petulance. And the Tim Hardin comment got my dander up too. Oh and A also has the fab "Apples and Oranges".

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Re: BCB CUP 09: SEMI FINAL 1

Postby Snarfyguy » 02 Mar 2009, 00:09

whodathunkit wrote:Oh and A also has the fab "Apples and Oranges".

The two Pink Floyd choices are very emblematic of their respective lists, I think. Arnold Layne is a stone classic, but Apples and Oranges is arguably just as great while also being that much more off-kilter as a song / performance and interesting as a selection.
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Postby Billybob Dylan » 02 Mar 2009, 00:20

A.
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